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    06-25-2010, 10:25 PM
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Reiners as trail horses...

I'm starting to get fed up with the idea. What do you do if you're cantering on terrain that isn't great for sliding and need to stop?

I've been tolerating her not stopping perfectly in instances like this, but it's starting to affect her stop in the arena. It was okay before because I could work on her stop in the arena on the days I don't trail ride, or even before or after a trail ride. But I just moved to a new barn and we don't have an arena yet, so I don't know what to do. I feel I'm ruining all the training I put on her.
     
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    06-26-2010, 07:25 AM
  #2
Trained
From the trainers I have talked to you should not be sliding all the time anyway. It is way too hard on the horse. So, perhaps you can transport to an arena with proper footing occassionally? In the meantime, certainly your horse should be able to whoa without sliding........and you can work on all the rest of the finer points of reining. Or did I misunderstand your issue? I have read it several times and am still not clear.
     
    06-26-2010, 10:58 AM
  #3
Trained
I do trail ride all my reiners. However I think about what I am do and what might happen. I do not tend to lope much on trail rides. The idea of a trail ride is to give the horse a brake for all the loping and such. SO it is more of a relaxing thing for them and me. I do trot some to build some muscle that does not get used as much to get a more rounded horse.

If I know I am going trail riding with friends and we will be doing a lot of loping I tend to take my stallion who is now retired and I do not have to worry about taking him from a lope to a trot and then a stop and having them slow down before they stop.

It will also depend on what level you are showing your horse in and how well broke they are. Cassie knows her job so well that she knows when she is on and when she is just out enjoying her self.
     
    06-26-2010, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
From the trainers I have talked to you should not be sliding all the time anyway. It is way too hard on the horse. So, perhaps you can transport to an arena with proper footing occassionally? In the meantime, certainly your horse should be able to whoa without sliding........and you can work on all the rest of the finer points of reining. Or did I misunderstand your issue? I have read it several times and am still not clear.
Sorry... I'm terrible at explaining things. I didn't mean that I want her to slide on the trail - I just want her to stop on her back end instead of her front end.
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    06-26-2010, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
I do trail ride all my reiners. However I think about what I am do and what might happen. I do not tend to lope much on trail rides. The idea of a trail ride is to give the horse a brake for all the loping and such. SO it is more of a relaxing thing for them and me. I do trot some to build some muscle that does not get used as much to get a more rounded horse.

If I know I am going trail riding with friends and we will be doing a lot of loping I tend to take my stallion who is now retired and I do not have to worry about taking him from a lope to a trot and then a stop and having them slow down before they stop.

It will also depend on what level you are showing your horse in and how well broke they are. Cassie knows her job so well that she knows when she is on and when she is just out enjoying her self.
Sorry to double post, but I can't multi-quote with my phone.

She hasn't been reining for long, so that's why I'm having problems with her. I go on long trail rides and mostly walk and trot but I do a fair amount of cantering. Most of the terrain is short grass. Should she be able to stop on her back end in the grass? Am I just babying her too much? I always bring her down to the slowest lope she can do before I stop her.
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    06-26-2010, 10:54 PM
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Trained
I do not like to stop on grass. The foot can get caught on the grass and can really mess them up. When I want to stop without sliding I just ask for the horse to slow down like you would in your transition and then let them brake it down to a trot then walk. This will help in 2 ways. One it keeps them from getting hurt and the other and just as important it can be a good training tool. When I work on transition from fast to slow circles if the horse wants to to down to the trot I will let them at times then down to the walk and then the stop. This helps them hunt the slower gaits.
     
    06-27-2010, 11:53 PM
  #7
Yearling
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Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
I do not like to stop on grass. The foot can get caught on the grass and can really mess them up. When I want to stop without sliding I just ask for the horse to slow down like you would in your transition and then let them brake it down to a trot then walk. This will help in 2 ways. One it keeps them from getting hurt and the other and just as important it can be a good training tool. When I work on transition from fast to slow circles if the horse wants to to down to the trot I will let them at times then down to the walk and then the stop. This helps them hunt the slower gaits.

Put perfectly and I completely agree!
     
    06-28-2010, 01:26 AM
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Weanling
Does she have plates on? If not then I wouldn't worry to much. You still don't want to stop hard but asking for her to stop isn't going to affect her much without the plates. If she does have plates on then I would transition to a trot before stopping or stop from a really slow lope.
     
    06-28-2010, 01:29 AM
  #9
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Silvera    
Does she have plates on? If not then I wouldn't worry to much. You still don't want to stop hard but asking for her to stop isn't going to affect her much without the plates. If she does have plates on then I would transition to a trot before stopping or stop from a really slow lope.
I have to disagree just a little bit.

Asking a horse to stop hard on their haunches and slide without plates can jam hocks and cause other pain that can discourage a horse to slide well in the future. This may just be my experience, but I would advise against asking for slides without proper shoes.

If I'm misunderstanding, I'm sorry.
     
    06-28-2010, 01:31 AM
  #10
Weanling
That's why I said not to stop hard, stopping from an easy lope is fine as long as the horse doesn't stop hard even at a slower lope. You shouldn't slide without plates anytime, it's not good on the joints.
     

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