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    07-29-2012, 05:00 PM
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Green Broke
The search might be be over!! Pattern video included!

Turns out there was a horse under my nose!

My trainer's father is selling his horse because she doesn't have enough get up and go. She is pretty good at reining but she would be just as happy shlepping through the park. She just isn't what they hoped she would be. If you don't know I'm horse shopping for a friend spare horse. I ride with her 99% of the time so I (somehow) convinced her to look for a reining horse.

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She is a 5 y/o, red roan with two blue eyes, killer pedigree, knows all her stuff (spins, good slider). Has been hauled around and shown extensively. Dead quiet, apparently he was messing with her the other day and picked up a plastic lawn chair and put it on her neck while they were riding. She isn't super sensitive to leg (needs spurs) which will be great, she won't be spinning on Laura's friends and family! Haha. They say her spooks consist of just looking at the thing. The guys wife said if they had the extra money and space she would keep her just as a trail horse but the whole family (like literally the WHOLE family, they even named a daughter Rein) is into competitive reining. The cons are that she is mareish, likes her personal space, might kick out if a horse walk up to close to her on the ground. She also will kick if she is startled, though its only happened twice. Both times they were at a show and they opened up the stall door a surprised her in the middle of the night.




Video, sorry it is dark. Dang indoor! They are also having her teeth done this week. I've seen her ridden 5 or 6 times (as well as shown) and her head never ever looks like that.

Here is her pedigree. Peptoboonsmal, Pepto's I brow, Gunner.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/peptos+paint+gun

I can't wait to ride her tomorrow! Fingers crossed everybody!
     
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    07-29-2012, 09:25 PM
  #2
Yearling
She needs quite a bit of work, I'm sure she could be a good lil project reiner. All the problems she has, hanging on the bridle, bottle spinning, etc.. can be fixed fairly easy.. I'm not sure why the trainer hasn't advised his father to do it. I am confused that they are getting rid of her because she doesn't have enough get up and go... "it's easier to get them to go fast than slow them down..."
     
    07-29-2012, 09:41 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Apparently the he wants a horse with more go and its pretty apparent she probably won't ever be that way. They say she need A LOT of leg and they really have to get after her. Probably not a good horse for someone who has been reining and riding his whole life. They have been working on her the past two years. After they realized she wasn't going to be the kind of caliber horse they thought she was going to be they kind of put her on the back burner. I'm sure she was tuned up a few days before this and they just took her because they had a spare spot on the trailer.

She might not be a good horse for them, but I think she could suit my green reiner needs just fine. :)
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    07-29-2012, 09:59 PM
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Green Broke
Also, what do you mean by bottle spinning?
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    07-29-2012, 10:28 PM
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Showing
I had a really hard time seeing much in the video because it was so dark but just based on the pictures, I like her. She's got a nice calm face and she's nice and stocky. Her legs are straight in all the right spots and have good angle in the right spots.

What I can see is that she does need some re-training. There is potential there to be pretty dang nice, but there are problems too. The ones that really stood out to me are the problems with her slinging her head. However, if she's never done that before when you saw her rode, it might have been a bad tooth or there may have been some "pilot error" in the video.

She might also need to be seen by a chiro. Maybe it's just my mind looking for patterns where there aren't any, but it seems to me that the majority of the time when she would go to slinging her head was when the rider would get off balance and kind of go to flopping on her a bit. Whether he was getting off balance because she was getting squirrelly with her body or whether she was getting squirrelly because he was off balance is the real question. Very chicken and egg scenario, IMHO.

I suspect what Shmurmer might mean by "bottle spins" is that she's spinning both ends around the middle. Her pivot foot doesn't stay in the same spot so her butt moves too much.
     
    07-29-2012, 10:37 PM
  #6
Green Broke
It seems like a little bit of both maybe, though he was convinced it was the tooth. I honestly never saw her do that. They are very into the way the horses carry themselves. When I saw that I thought to my self "what the hell, that's odd!".

Do you think with time she can be trained out of that with more experience? She is only 5.
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    07-29-2012, 10:46 PM
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Showing
Oh, yeah. With a good hand that knows what they're doing, that could be corrected in a relatively small amount of time. She just needs to be re-taught that when the rider picks up the reins, she needs to give, round, and tuck instead of evade, brace, and hollow like she's doing now.

Also, this thread is very enlightening about the spins and what issues she's likely having (and how to correct them).
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    07-29-2012, 10:53 PM
  #8
Trained
That video is too dark to see anything about the horse really. I will say that it looks like she has plunty of go he is just not getting what she has worked properly. His hands look like they are all over the place.
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    07-29-2012, 10:59 PM
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Yearling
I know nothing about reining, but I can say she's a darn good looking mare with color to boot...
     
    07-29-2012, 10:59 PM
  #10
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
Oh, yeah. With a good hand that knows what they're doing, that could be corrected in a relatively small amount of time. She just needs to be re-taught that when the rider picks up the reins, she needs to give, round, and tuck instead of evade, brace, and hollow like she's doing now.

Also, this thread is very enlightening about the spins and what issues she's likely having (and how to correct them).
Training to spin
Typically she does, like all their horses do. They are well schooled in give to the bit. It's actually one of the first things I learned in my lessons with my trainer. The whole family is BIG on it. I'd put money on her teeth needing to be done or just lack of schooling because they have moved on from her. All and all should be an (knock wood) easy fix.
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