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post #21 of 23 Old 10-10-2012, 08:44 AM
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WOW! I had not gotten back to this thread in a while. Throw out the trainer and the horse. Neither is going to get you anywhere and you will just end up with bad habits that will be hard to break.

Look up 'Les Vogt'. He has about the best program for teaching young aspiring trainers and riders of reiners and cowhorses. He has won 15 World Championships, and is a true 'trainer's trainers' and is a true gentleman. I cannot say enough good things about Les. He is kind to both people and horses and has shown that you do not need to be unethical to win World Championships.

He has a program he calls 'Cowhorse U'. He has a series of people training videos and videos that show the foundation you need in a reining horse. They will help anyone make a better horse. Look up his website and his training videos. Here is a link to his series about getting a good foundation on a horse and beginning maneuver like the 'turn-around'.

Les Vogt CowHorse U Program: Study Program for the Performance Horse by Les Vogt

I think that given the horse and trainer you have available to you, you would be much better served by this video series. You cannot even get started until you know what you don't know about the steps needed to make a horse 'light and responsive' and know how to put the right foundation in one.
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Wheeeww, thank you guys. I have been thinking "Is this seriously how they get their horses to do all those spins and sliding stops? Screw that, I don't want any part of that" I am so happy that not all reiners are like that. The owner was doing the same thing the trainer was, and everyone there was on board with it (no pun intended). Thanks for the info on Les Vogt Cherie, I'm looking at his website right now. I'm also carefully rethinking everything I have learned in my 2 months at this barn. I'm kind of embarrassed that I assumed just because she owned a barn and a bunch of horses that she knew what she was doing. I'm pretty thankful for this forum today, thank you guys.
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I've seen a lot of STUFF in other disciplines, and reining is also a discipline that has its STUFF! However after being exposed to good people and great reining riders is when I decided this is what I want to do. I'm not very good at it, but I try!
The proof is in the pudding too! The essence of a good reining rider is softness, subtleness and smoothness. If you can find a trainer who shows these qualities you're on the right track! There are going to be times when things just look down right ugly (ie. counter countering! Haha! Sliding....without actually sliding! ) but these things are par for the course when you are learning and when your horse is learning:)
I've seen people run down the arena to slide.....without sliders ones! Duh! I've seen people actually go through the end of the arena fence.....while TRYING to fence their horse....DUH! Spinning without shinboots or bell boots and having the horse step all over itself.......these are the people you LEARN from - they are good examples of what NOT to do, people who like to show boat and just use a horse for their own personal fun time......stay away from these ones, they'll only make you want to quit......
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