To streaker: She was just standing up to me and your So.... was easily taken wrong because or your ealier post it made it look likt you were being rude. Even though you weren't I know, and now she knows, but we are all a little defensive right now. Oh, and I am in the same boat, I specialize in barrel horses, not reining or western pleasure or any of that. That would be why I am asked.
Franknbeans: Thank you!....for standing up for me and understanding what I was trying to say. I will certainly Pm you :)
As for the man who I think is a reiner (I can't think of what your name is on here), thank you for you bits of info. No, it didn't help much, it just opened my eyes some, but I do understand that you need the fundamentals of a handle before you can teach the horse the fundamentals of reining.
YOu have to be more specific in what you wan to know. Each horse even ones trained by the same trainer is going to have slightly different cues.
However most reining trainers use the same basic cues. Bumb to walk my trainer uses more of a squeeze to walk. So I have 3 reiners now with slightly different cues 2 trained by the same trainer.
Before I can answer any question I need more info. That is why I said you need to find a reiner in your area. Might not be a trainer but a reiner. They can help you under stand the cues that are used. I have done this for several people locally who have reining horses but do not rein. I tried to help anouther but she was a bit ticked that I beat her at a small open show. Sorry. Yet I was more then willing to help she just would not take it.
Some horses it is not even about the cue but the way you sit. You could cue my Dun It mare correctly all day long but if you do not have the correct body position she will just stand there. Ask the neighbor girl. She rides my stallion but can not ride my mare. She just does not have the body control to cue the mare correctly and the mare will not just pack her like my stallion will.
This is why I say you need someone one on one there. To see what you are doing and what the horse is doing. I have ridden enough reiners who where trained by enough different trainers and have talked to watched and ridden with others that I have seen a lot of different ways to "Skin a Cat" so to speak. So to really give you a correct answer I might actually have to get on and just try a few different things.
Also it you could be doing everything correctly but if your leg is hitting at a different level b/c you are a different height then the other trainer that can change things also. Not a lot you can do there just keep working on it. Had this problem with my Doc O'Lena stallion. The trainer I used with him was about 5'3 and I am 5'10 so you can see the problem there.
Also is the horse trained to start the maneuver and keep doing until told to stop so once it starts you stop cuing? I know 2 of mine are and the other is not. So this is something you will need to figure out.
In the end it sounds like if the owner does not want a finished reiner just keep going with keeping the horse light responsive and guiding well. These are all things reiner MUST do that have nothing to do with the maneuvers.