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    01-26-2011, 07:31 PM
  #31
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Originally Posted by Streakin    
I do have basic knowledge of the things you mentioned, but I feel that there are others more suitable to answer your question. :)

Hopefully you will get your answers

(its a personal peeve of mine when posters post on a subject they know nothing about LOL)

And it is a personal pet peeve of mine when people act like they have all the knowledge....and control it.

There is NOTHING wrong with asking a question. Nothing at all. Last I knew that is how we ALL learn. So lose the holier than thou attitude.

This is a forum, and it is for gaining knowledge and sharing. Not for saying "nanana boo boo-I know the answer and I 'm not telling" like a bunch of friggin kindergartners.

There are many things we all need to learn and the sooner you learn that you don't have all the answers, the better off you will be.

OP-I hope you have found SOME answers-feel free to PM if you want.

As has been stated, ad nauseum, all of us do not have the luxury of a "real" reining trainer for a variety of reasons. That should not minimize the fact that we still want to learn as much as we can, and be the best we can be given our resources.
     
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    01-26-2011, 07:37 PM
  #32
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Originally Posted by Streakin    
So.....?
Sorry for the double post, but...really? So.....what? You expected and answer to your saying you weren't rude? Good luck with that.
     
    01-26-2011, 07:37 PM
  #33
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
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And it is a personal pet peeve of mine when people act like they have all the knowledge....and control it.

There is NOTHING wrong with asking a question. Nothing at all. Last I knew that is how we ALL learn. So lose the holier than thou attitude.

This is a forum, and it is for gaining knowledge and sharing. Not for saying "nanana boo boo-I know the answer and I 'm not telling" like a bunch of friggin kindergartners.

There are many things we all need to learn and the sooner you learn that you don't have all the answers, the better off you will be.

OP-I hope you have found SOME answers-feel free to PM if you want.

As has been stated, ad nauseum, all of us do not have the luxury of a "real" reining trainer for a variety of reasons. That should not minimize the fact that we still want to learn as much as we can, and be the best we can be given our resources.
WTH is this post about?

I just ADMITTED that Im not the most suitable to answer all her questions?

Pot meet Kettle. I suggest you stop jumping down my throat.

You're being ridiculous. Im not a reining trainer, nor do I ride reiners. I have a little experience, but IMO people that know more than I should offer her advice. I specialize in barrel horses.
     
    01-26-2011, 07:40 PM
  #34
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
Sorry for the double post, but...really? So.....what? You expected and answer to your saying you weren't rude? Good luck with that.
I was wondering if she understood what was said or not in regards to the training advice.

Are you a mindreader among other things?:roll:
     
    01-26-2011, 08:15 PM
  #35
Weanling
To streaker: She was just standing up to me and your So.... was easily taken wrong because or your ealier post it made it look likt you were being rude. Even though you weren't I know, and now she knows, but we are all a little defensive right now. Oh, and I am in the same boat, I specialize in barrel horses, not reining or western pleasure or any of that. That would be why I am asked.

Franknbeans: Thank you!....for standing up for me and understanding what I was trying to say. I will certainly Pm you :)

As for the man who I think is a reiner (I can't think of what your name is on here), thank you for you bits of info. No, it didn't help much, it just opened my eyes some, but I do understand that you need the fundamentals of a handle before you can teach the horse the fundamentals of reining.
     
    01-26-2011, 08:23 PM
  #36
Showing
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
There really IS no trainer available in VA when I am there in the winter.
What about this place: Untitled ? Although it may be a drive for you, of course (I'm not very positive where exactly you live in VA), but from what I heard it's a nice place and I know for sure they work with any horse (I went there for lessons just to try something different). Here is another place I heard lots of very nice things about: reining training trainer md maryland colts fillies derbys futurity
     
    01-26-2011, 08:31 PM
  #37
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Thanks very much Kitten! I have actually tried to contact the first one, and have not gotten an answer. They are about 50 miles from me...not an easy commute at certain times of the day, but doable. I will continue trying, but, like I said, I have found that since I have a QH cross, who is not bred to death....some will have nothing to do with him, even tho' my $$ is the same as everyone elses, and I have no less desire. I just want him to be the best he can be, and me too. As well as have fun-we both enjoy it.
I will also contact the second place-not too sure where they are, but will ask. Otherwise, it is pretty my WAY south-like almost NC, or wait until I go back to NY in the spring. I would really like to keep working during winter tho. (every winter-not just this one.)
Anyway-thanks!
     
    01-26-2011, 08:43 PM
  #38
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Originally Posted by SissyGoBob    
To streaker: She was just standing up to me and your So.... was easily taken wrong because or your ealier post it made it look likt you were being rude. Even though you weren't I know, and now she knows, but we are all a little defensive right now. Oh, and I am in the same boat, I specialize in barrel horses, not reining or western pleasure or any of that. That would be why I am asked.

Franknbeans: Thank you!....for standing up for me and understanding what I was trying to say. I will certainly Pm you :)

As for the man who I think is a reiner (I can't think of what your name is on here), thank you for you bits of info. No, it didn't help much, it just opened my eyes some, but I do understand that you need the fundamentals of a handle before you can teach the horse the fundamentals of reining.
YOu have to be more specific in what you wan to know. Each horse even ones trained by the same trainer is going to have slightly different cues.

However most reining trainers use the same basic cues. Bumb to walk my trainer uses more of a squeeze to walk. So I have 3 reiners now with slightly different cues 2 trained by the same trainer.

Before I can answer any question I need more info. That is why I said you need to find a reiner in your area. Might not be a trainer but a reiner. They can help you under stand the cues that are used. I have done this for several people locally who have reining horses but do not rein. I tried to help anouther but she was a bit ticked that I beat her at a small open show. Sorry. Yet I was more then willing to help she just would not take it.

Some horses it is not even about the cue but the way you sit. You could cue my Dun It mare correctly all day long but if you do not have the correct body position she will just stand there. Ask the neighbor girl. She rides my stallion but can not ride my mare. She just does not have the body control to cue the mare correctly and the mare will not just pack her like my stallion will.

This is why I say you need someone one on one there. To see what you are doing and what the horse is doing. I have ridden enough reiners who where trained by enough different trainers and have talked to watched and ridden with others that I have seen a lot of different ways to "Skin a Cat" so to speak. So to really give you a correct answer I might actually have to get on and just try a few different things.

Also it you could be doing everything correctly but if your leg is hitting at a different level b/c you are a different height then the other trainer that can change things also. Not a lot you can do there just keep working on it. Had this problem with my Doc O'Lena stallion. The trainer I used with him was about 5'3 and I am 5'10 so you can see the problem there.

Also is the horse trained to start the maneuver and keep doing until told to stop so once it starts you stop cuing? I know 2 of mine are and the other is not. So this is something you will need to figure out.

In the end it sounds like if the owner does not want a finished reiner just keep going with keeping the horse light responsive and guiding well. These are all things reiner MUST do that have nothing to do with the maneuvers.
     
    01-26-2011, 08:48 PM
  #39
Trained
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
Thanks very much Kitten! I have actually tried to contact the first one, and have not gotten an answer. They are about 50 miles from me...not an easy commute at certain times of the day, but doable. I will continue trying, but, like I said, I have found that since I have a QH cross, who is not bred to death....some will have nothing to do with him, even tho' my $$ is the same as everyone elses, and I have no less desire. I just want him to be the best he can be, and me too. As well as have fun-we both enjoy it.
I will also contact the second place-not too sure where they are, but will ask. Otherwise, it is pretty my WAY south-like almost NC, or wait until I go back to NY in the spring. I would really like to keep working during winter tho. (every winter-not just this one.)
Anyway-thanks!

Not sure when you tried to contact them but keep in mind that Nov and Dec is a bad time to try and reach any reining horse trainer. Most of the good ones start out doing the AQHA World show then the NRHA Futurity. Now they are starting to gear up for the NRBC and the Derby. Just keep trying. Also most of the bigger trainers have assistants that if they have some extra time you can get at the very least a lesson or so a week from.
     
    01-26-2011, 09:09 PM
  #40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by franknbeans    
Thanks very much Kitten! I have actually tried to contact the first one, and have not gotten an answer. They are about 50 miles from me...not an easy commute at certain times of the day, but doable. I will continue trying, but, like I said, I have found that since I have a QH cross, who is not bred to death....some will have nothing to do with him, even tho' my $$ is the same as everyone elses, and I have no less desire. I just want him to be the best he can be, and me too. As well as have fun-we both enjoy it.
I will also contact the second place-not too sure where they are, but will ask. Otherwise, it is pretty my WAY south-like almost NC, or wait until I go back to NY in the spring. I would really like to keep working during winter tho. (every winter-not just this one.)
Anyway-thanks!
Sure! I PMed you info (email and phone I used). Hope you have some luck! :)
     

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