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post #21 of 44 Old 10-28-2011, 08:29 PM
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And btw; I very much enjoy the simple company and companionship of my animals. Saying I don't like animals simply because I enjoy meat, is like saying a female dog doesn't like her puppies because she ate that rabbit the other day. I love my "babies" very much and do everything I can to take care of them. This doesn't mean I support the companies that are cruel in their fashion of preparing these animals, but besides doing what little I can as a single person, there isn't much to do and I need to eat.

I just also know there is a difference between "pets" and farm animals intended for consumption.

Sorry to almost jack the thread, didn't mean too, just wanted to get that out as the bashing started. I personally don't care what anyone eats (though people may be a little creepy.... LOLLL). Anyway, interested to see some recipes posted here, might try a few for a change.

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post #22 of 44 Old 10-28-2011, 08:43 PM
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Actually meat is good for you. It has protein. It's not good for you in large amounts.
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post #23 of 44 Old 10-28-2011, 09:33 PM
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I was a vegetarian for three years and vegan for one of those years. I really enjoyed it. I was much healthier than I am now. -shame-

I had regular blood work done to ensure I didn't have any deficiencies. I was always A-OK, fit as a fiddle.

I have since converted back to meat eating, but I really don't eat much meat anyway. I always eat vegetarian if I can, just for the taste.
I'm not that fond of many meats.

Veggie love!
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post #24 of 44 Old 10-29-2011, 11:10 AM
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I figured I would post on the thread in case anyone else was interested. I had this in the saloon too. I personally like an earthy wine for this instead of a fruity one and I use lots of Parmesan. enjoy! =)

Mushroom filling:
2 cups boiling water
1 cup dried porcini mushrooms (about 1 ounce)
1 tablespoon olive oil
2 cups chopped onion
4 garlic cloves, minced
8 cups sliced shiitake mushroom caps (about 1 1/2 pounds)
3 cups sliced cremini mushrooms (about 1/2 pound)
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 cup Côtes du Rhône or other fruity red wine
1 tablespoon low-sodium soy sauce
1/4 cup chopped fresh parsley
2 teaspoons chopped fresh or 3/4 teaspoon dried rosemary
1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
Bechamel Sauce
3 cups 1% low-fat milk
2 tablespoons butter
3 tablespoons sifted all-purpose flour
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1/8 teaspoon ground nutmeg

Remaining ingredients:
Cooking spray
1 (8-ounce) package precooked lasagna noodles
1 cup (4 ounces) grated fresh Parmesan cheese

To prepare filling, combine water and porcini in a small bowl; let stand 30 minutes. Drain porcini through a sieve over a bowl, squeezing porcini to extract liquid. Reserve 1 1/2 cups liquid; discard remaining liquid. Rinse porcini, and drain. Chop coarsely; set aside.

Heat oil in a large Dutch oven over medium-high heat. Add onion; sauté 5 minutes or until tender. Add garlic; sauté 30 seconds. Add shiitake mushrooms, cremini mushrooms, and 1/2 teaspoon salt. Sauté 5 minutes or until mushrooms release moisture and begin to brown. Stir in porcini, wine, and soy sauce. Cook 4 minutes or until liquid almost evaporates, stirring frequently. Stir in parsley and rosemary. Add the reserved porcini liquid; bring to a simmer. Cook until liquid is reduced to 3/4 cup (about 10 minutes). Remove from heat; stir in 1/4 teaspoon pepper.
To prepare béchamel, place milk in a 4-cup glass measure. Microwave at HIGH 3 minutes or until hot, stirring after 2 minutes. Melt butter in a large, heavy saucepan over medium heat. Add flour, stirring with a whisk, and cook 1 minute or until bubbly, stirring constantly. Gradually add milk, stirring constantly with a whisk. Bring to a simmer; cook over low heat 8 minutes or until sauce slightly thickens, stirring frequently. Remove from heat, and stir in 1/2 teaspoon salt, 1/4 teaspoon pepper, and nutmeg.

Preheat oven to 350°.

Spread 1/2 cup béchamel in bottom of an 11 x 7-inch baking dish coated with cooking spray. Arrange 3 noodles over béchamel; top with 1/2 cup béchamel. Top with 1 cup mushroom mixture. Sprinkle with 1/4 cup cheese. Repeat layers three times (dish will be very full). Cover with foil; place baking dish on a baking sheet. Bake at 350° for 30 minutes. Uncover lasagna; bake an additional 15 minutes or until cheese melts.
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post #25 of 44 Old 10-29-2011, 02:59 PM
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Hey, I am not a vegetarian and am not for health reasons, mostly having no iron levels I can't drop meat because I need all the iron I can get and rather not eat a ton of broccoli all the time. If I don't I pass out cold.

But that is beside the point, I make great lasagna with eggplant. Every meat eater than eats doesn't even know there is none in it. Basicly use thin slices of egg plant not noddles, and no hamburger, lots of mushrooms, peppers and homemade tomatoe sauce always is better.

I don't care what someones eating habits are, no one has the right to push their own on someone unless it is endangering there life. Choosing to eat meat isn't life threatening. But good luck making the decision it can be hard to choose to go against the grain of the people around you.
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post #26 of 44 Old 10-29-2011, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Saskia View Post
Moral question for other vegetarians... and this is one I have problems on. Leather. Morally I am against it, for some reason not to the same extent as meat because I feel eating is much more of a waste where as leather can have an appreciated value, even so I don't feel its quite right. But anyway, how do you feel about it? How do you, if you do, avoid leather in the horse world? Because there are no boots that aren't leather, even non-horse shoes i have difficulty finding non-leather and often I can't and I buy leather, and feel guilty. Things like bridles, I find the synthetic ones are just so crappy I just end up buying a leather one and take care if so it lasts but still...

How does everyone else feel about that?

With meat too, I think western societies consume WAY too much these days. Even from an environmental standpoint, without the morals.
Agreeing with the whole of your post!
Thought I should answer how I feel about leather.
I'm not buying it, since I consider it this way: leather is about the same industry as the meat, isn't it? And you kill an animal to get it... so, I might just as well eat a big chunk of beaf as buy a pair of leather shoes...
So I avoid leather. I HAVE bought a leather head-collar over the internet for my pony this year, but I wasn't aware it was leather until I got it. It wasn't mentioned on the selling site.. And couldn't be seen on the pic either. ):
Buying shoes is usually a problem now. I tried to find a new pair of jogging shoes this summer, but could find no non-leather ones, so then I just didn't buy anything.
I prefer synthetic horse-stuff to leather. I do have some leather stuff for Silver, the saddle for example, but that came with her when I bought her, and is second-hand.
My (bitless) bridle is synthetic, and I'm really satisfied with it. Much easier to wash, too...

So no, leather is not an opinion at all for me.
But happily there are coming more alternatives to leather these days, and hopefully more in the future!

- And yes, we consume far too much, it's sick really...

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Great post!!
And no, meat isn't very healthy - especially not if you eat much of it..
That's proved. Same goes for milk, though.. You get stronger bones if you don't drink so much milk, for example.
It's weird how we are the only species where the grown-ups drink milk, by the way.
Milk is originally intended for babies, but most people don't consider that now. So we steal it from the calves instead...
It's funny how my best friend uses it as an excuse for not becoming vegan that she will "need" cow's milk until she is at least 18, when in reality we don't NEED cow's milk at all..
Of course, I'm not vegan, I'm just "thinking aloud" here, so to speak
But it's my goal!
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post #27 of 44 Old 10-29-2011, 08:06 PM
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I have and always will be a omnivore (eats meat and plant matter), plus i hunt where you know how the animal died and it is literally all natural.
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post #28 of 44 Old 10-29-2011, 08:34 PM
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I was a vegetarian for about 10 years because of the economics of the cattle industry here in the US, and the high level of carcinogens at the upper levels of the food chain. Also, I lost my taste for meat, although I did indulge in fried chicken or BBQ occasionally. It wasn't healthy for my body, though. I have always been athletic, running, working out, etc. and I was always anemic. When I began eating meat again it was a jolt to my system but my increased energy level was incredible. I really like to buy locally grown organic meats. Still don't have much taste for meat but eat it for health reasons.
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post #29 of 44 Old 10-29-2011, 11:14 PM
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About 15 years ago I was standing at the meat department when suddenly I saw all the meat cuts comprising a steer. I almost gagged. I went veggie and still have a hard time walking past the meat counter. I do eat seafood, salmon, tuna and lots of it or I lose too much weight.
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post #30 of 44 Old 10-30-2011, 09:41 AM
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One of my favorite things when I was a veg was fried Morning Star Chik'n Strips dipped in hot wing sauce. It is SO good. I still eat it even though I'm no longer veg.

Also, I can't remember the brand name(Smart Deli or something?), but there is a vegan roast beef for sandwiches and stuff, and it is amazing. Tastes just like real roast beef!
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