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    10-31-2011, 07:48 PM
  #41
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Originally Posted by VelvetsAB    
I need to address the above posts.

Have either of you been to a working dairy farm? Do either of you actually know what goes on there, and how much work it is?

First off, how is milking a cow harmful? The calf does it. We just figured out a way to use machines to make the same suction, to get milk out.

The calves still get all the first nutrients they need from the cow, then still get milk after (in a bucket) instead of having "free for all" access. No harm comes to the calves being weaned that early, since they are still getting milk. So, we are NOT stealing milk from the calves.

The cows benefit from being milked, as the calves can't always drink what they have to offer, which can lead to mastitis (sp).
And what happens to the male calves? What happens to the dairy cows when they're too old (do they get too old)? I don't imagine they all just go to the paddock and have a lovely retirement.

I was under the impression that all the cows eventually end up in slaughter - I guess the dairy ones are just used for a while first. I also thought that the calves were often sold very young as veal. To me, buying and consuming milk is still contributing to the beef industry in this way.

I also was under the impression that many (although certainly not all) farms use a hormone therapy to significantly increase the amount of milk produced by a cow, and also milk them much more intensively than they would be naturally, and I was under the impression that this was known to contribute to mastitis. And of course, naturally, a cow's milk supply would dry up as her calf grew. Different people have different opinions about what is right and wrong and I totally accept that and am not trying to change your mind, or anyone elses, but I don't think its right to constantly keep an animal pregnant and lactating until its usefulness is up and then kill it. I wouldn't breed a horse every year, or a human, I think its too much a strain on any animal, and I have heard that dairy cows can have health problems, and go lame, from excessive breeding and confinement.

No, I don't know a lot about a dairy farm, I don't hang out at them and I know that not all dairy farms are the same, but there are lots of things that I don't have first hand experience with and that I still have opinions about, and that doesn't make them any less valid. I know there are plenty out there that offer a pleasant life to their animals but I don't believe all do. I know that in Australia you can buy milk from farms that don't use hormones and that are sort of "ethical" farms. I'm sure farmers work extremely hard for their living.

Each person has a different line of what they think is wrong and right and to me habitually having another creatures milk when there are plenty of alternatives isn't right.
     
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    11-11-2011, 11:29 PM
  #42
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I'm a full blown vegetarian.

I've been raised that way, and although I have had the choice to eat meat, I still didnt, and never will.

Its not necessarily eating the meat that bothers me, its the way the meat is killed. The way the cows, chickens, pigs, and etc. are treated. I mean, they have as much feelings as a horse does, but yet they are treated like dirt. Its wrong. If you seen horses treated that way, it would be the end of the world. But a cow? Oh, its fine, just a cow. Its a free country, eat whatever you want, Im not going to try and stop you, but I still firmly believe the way that the animals are killed and raised is WAY wrong.

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    11-11-2011, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Over Jump    
I'm a full blown vegetarian.

I've been raised that way, and although I have had the choice to eat meat, I still didnt, and never will.

Its not necessarily eating the meat that bothers me, its the way the meat is killed. The way the cows, chickens, pigs, and etc. are treated. I mean, they have as much feelings as a horse does, but yet they are treated like dirt. Its wrong. If you seen horses treated that way, it would be the end of the world. But a cow? Oh, its fine, just a cow. Its a free country, eat whatever you want, Im not going to try and stop you, but I still firmly believe the way that the animals are killed and raised is WAY wrong.

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Really.... so my steer that has 15 fenced acres, a heated auto-waterer an unending supply of high quality timothy hay, a large run-in shelter with straw bedding and a heifer for company is treated like dirt?

I guess my pigs that have a fenced acre, a heated water barrel, a creep feeder that is never empty, a completely enclosed shelter with straw bedding, their own private pond that was created to allow for easy entry and exit and run squealing to me because they want their ears rubbed and their rumps scratched are also treated like dirt.

My horse Vet dropped by to give one of my cows a shot as a favor to me and said that I treat my "food" better than half of his clients treat their horses. But yet.... I treat them like dirt. :roll:

Oh and zero members of my family are overweight.....
     
    11-17-2011, 03:43 PM
  #44
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After I started riding again.. I felt weird eating meat.. Riding horses and owning a pet. Lol I guess in my mind.. It was wrong and strange.

But I also feel a lot healthier. It always cuts out any fast food options there may be. And it's saving me a little bit of money.
My sister is also dabbling in vegetarianism. My parents eat meat but theyre more than willing to help prepare non meat dishes.

There are a lot of recipes I use. But I'm running late for work so I will check back on the forum later ! Haha
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