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Do you think Bronc Riding is COOL or CRUEL?

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View Poll Results: Do you think Bronc Riding is COOL or CRUEL?
COOL - I think it's fun/interesting to watch. 29 59.18%
COOL - I do/have done Bronc Riding. 3 6.12%
CRUEL - I don't like the way it's done. 12 24.49%
NEUTRAL - I don't have an opinion/don't care. 5 10.20%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

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    01-20-2012, 11:22 PM
  #31
Green Broke
I completely understand you opinion COWCHICK, but naturally I have to dissagree. I've had a horse get excited sure, but they never blindly ran themselves into a fence. And if it doesn't hurt them, why even put fleece on it? Why have a connector strap on an actual saddle to prevent the back cinch from sliding back if it won't bother a horse? Why would the horses just flat out refuse to go out, and do whatever they can do to try not getting in a chute? And I've yet to understand the goals that are born during the traveling rodeo circuits. Can't just leave the poor mare behind in a non stressful environment to have her colt?
I've yet to go to a SINGLE rodeo where the stock are actually managed well. So, most of my opinion is based on pure experience...
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    01-20-2012, 11:30 PM
  #32
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by MangoRoX87    
I've yet to go to a SINGLE rodeo where the stock are actually managed well. So, most of my opinion is based on pure experience...
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I'm sorry you haven't been to a professionally run rodeo. Hand prods, rough handling of the stock, all that has no place in rodeo. There is no need.

If you ever get stuck in Cody, WY in the summer, or Miles City, MT in May I can assure you you'd get to see some good and lucky horses buck.
     
    01-20-2012, 11:34 PM
  #33
Trained
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Originally Posted by NeuroticMare    
Says the person who's avatar is of a horse's mouth almost touching an infant's head :roll:

There are about a billion ways to get hurt around horses, and as far as I know all the bronc riders in rodeos are adults who can choose to do it or not if they don't want to.

The broncs are my favorite thing to watch in the rodeo, the horses look so happy to be bucking around, their ears are up and most of them are big, beautiful horses with a "rogue" mane and tail to look tough, but they do their thing and look like the enjoy it.
Yeah, my wild biting horse is going to bite my granddaughter. Not likely.
     
    01-21-2012, 12:08 AM
  #34
Weanling
I don't think it's cruel, but I also don't really find it that interesting to watch.

Now BULL riding - that is cool.
     
    01-21-2012, 01:15 AM
  #35
Trained
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Originally Posted by MangoRoX87    
I completely understand you opinion COWCHICK, but naturally I have to dissagree. I've had a horse get excited sure, but they never blindly ran themselves into a fence. And if it doesn't hurt them, why even put fleece on it? Why have a connector strap on an actual saddle to prevent the back cinch from sliding back if it won't bother a horse? Why would the horses just flat out refuse to go out, and do whatever they can do to try not getting in a chute? And I've yet to understand the goals that are born during the traveling rodeo circuits. Can't just leave the poor mare behind in a non stressful environment to have her colt?
I've yet to go to a SINGLE rodeo where the stock are actually managed well. So, most of my opinion is based on pure experience...
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My generic answers are no longer satisfying.
Hip flanking 101...
The flank strap does not hurt the horse to cause him to buck. The flank strap causes him to basically use his back end equally kicking, it makes for a better kick out, and is a safety measuse for horse and rider. If he kicks with one hind and one front out he is more likely to strain himself or injure. Horses are not flanked equally...some horses need very little flank some need more to get them to kick properly. When they buck them out as youngsters they experiment with what works for the horse and make note. Just like finding the best method to ride your horse or train him...all horses are different.

Going back to horses that stall in the chute....
Horses are either a right hand or a left hand delivery...if they deliver him off the wrong side he may stall because he is not used to it. He may be a young horse...young horses may stall. Improper flanking may cause stalling...if the flank is pulled too soon he may stall or not at the proper pressure for that paticular horse. Some horses are both bareback and saddle bronc horses, so he might be right hand delivery for saddle bronc and left for bareback...some girls change bits for different events, one bit for barrels, the other for poles...same concept...plus, hey they are horses...have you had a perfect ride everytime?
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    01-22-2012, 11:04 PM
  #36
Green Broke
Okay COWCHICK...as stubborn as I am.
You changed my opinion.

However, can you explain how the flank strap is a safety measure? I'm not understanding that fully.
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    01-23-2012, 11:09 AM
  #37
Trained
Lol, I am stubborn too! :)

I will answer your question this afternnon, I have the shoer showing up in a couple of minutes.
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    01-23-2012, 04:24 PM
  #38
Trained
There is a lot more to rodeo and bucking stock than most realize. The stereotype is a bunch of dink horses that no one else wants that get used up and badly treated to keep them "wild". It is like saying that all Saddleseat people abuse their horses and that isn't the case at all. All disciplines have their bad apples and rodeo is no different. And we all know as equestrians that someone elses discipline may look easy but once you try it you realize that there ia a lot more involved to do it correctly or be successful.

Anyways Mango to answer your question to the best of knowledge ...

What the flank does is to get him to kick with his legs at the same time. If he was to kick out with one hind leg at a time and he's on one front leg he is more likely to fall and he isn't using his body efficiently. If you have seen good bucking horses they buck with cadence. This is what the flank strap helps achieve. Buck, kick,buck,kick,buck,kick, he is using his legs together. If your horse isn't using his body properly, for example, running barrels, he is more likely to slip in a turn, or injure himself. Or a reining horse in a sliding stop, when he is using his body correctly he wont injure himself, but say he dumps his shoulders and slams himself into the ground it wont be long before he hurts himself. Same concept...
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    01-25-2012, 11:51 PM
  #39
Foal
Bronc horses are athletes, and at least all our stock contractors around here, they are treated extremely well. They go out and do their job for a short 8 seconds and they are done! Don't go all Carrie Underwood on the rodeo events! That will call for an extremely unpleasant discussion! :)
     
    01-26-2012, 01:08 AM
  #40
Foal
I think it's fun to watch. I do feel that spurs should not be used, or not harsh ones. There are horses who love to buck and are good at it. This sport gives these horses a place to be productive.
     

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