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        07-20-2010, 05:05 PM
      #41
    Foal
    Yes, and I detest fox hunting as well.
    Do I not have a right to post?
    Everyone has the right to express their opinion.
         
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        07-20-2010, 05:10 PM
      #42
    Foal
    Maybe I'm not doing myself any favours here, but I'd geniunely like to know....
    Maybe I do not know the full picture.. but how can you guys enjoy watching an animal, (horses infact, the animals that you're supposed to love) be put into a situation where it panics, and it's behaviour is exploited.
    Maybe I've watched extremely biased videos, but still, it's evidence that such things have happened.
    Enlighten me. (Of course there are good and bad of everything)
         
        07-20-2010, 05:19 PM
      #43
    Showing
    Hey, guys, chillax. Everybody has a right to their own opinion.
         
        07-20-2010, 05:30 PM
      #44
    Foal
    OMG!!! Here we go........ I know for a fact that the folks surrounding me take better care of their performance rodeo horses than they do their own kids. Maybe not that much but close.
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        07-20-2010, 05:44 PM
      #45
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by King    
    Maybe I'm not doing myself any favours here, but I'd geniunely like to know....
    Maybe I do not know the full picture.. but how can you guys enjoy watching an animal, (horses infact, the animals that you're supposed to love) be put into a situation where it panics, and it's behaviour is exploited.
    Maybe I've watched extremely biased videos, but still, it's evidence that such things have happened.
    Enlighten me. (Of course there are good and bad of everything)
    You sound like you are merely referring to bronc riding, am I right? The cowboy jumps on, spurs the horse or bull into bucking, spinning and hopping around??? This is a part of rodeo that I too do not like one bit BUT...it is just a small fraction of what rodeo really is. In my opinion you should maybe take a look at the whole picture before making up your mind so quickly. That's like saying you absolutely hate circus when you have only ever seen a clown act (not to say that bronc busting is a clown act, it is very serious especially for the rodeo clown).

    I am pretty biased in that for a long time I had a great dislike for ANYTHING Western ESPECIALLY rodeos. But, I had never actually been to a rodeo. I had never been behind the scenes. I had never seen how the horses are treated first hand. Since my move to Nebraska aka Rodeo Land (as I like to call it) I have changed my mind.

    I have worked with a trainer that not only used to train barrel horses, she also worked on reiners and cutting horses. She has several grand champion horses and I'll tell you, they love what they do. Her horses just hear you go into the tack room and BAM, they are standing in front of the hitching post (she always opens the pasture gate when she wants her horses). I've ridden with her into the neighbors cow pasture and have experienced a horse who really perks up just at the sight of a cow, and trust me there was no fear or anxiety there...ears straight forward, eyes glued to the cow and just waiting for that signal that he could go do his "stuff".

    I have been to a few local rodeos and I would have to say 95% of the horses there behaved in a similar way....as if they loved every second of what they were doing. Calf roping, team penning, barrels, etc. It seems to me like these horses were the smartest animals I had seen in a long time...it was as if the cowboys merely had to just sit on them and the horse was in control of every situation. The aforementioned trainer had one horse that she just had to turn loose in the cow pasture (only about 20 head of cows) and within half an hour the horse would have every one in the dry lot, by itself! What horse would do that by itself if it didn't actually like doing it? It's just a big game to these horses and they get to do what they love best GO FAST.

    I am currently working my green horse, Cinny, through lower level dressage. My hopes are to take him to N level eventing..which may be a stretch for him. But, if he takes one look at a jump and takes a big poo on it I might just switch him to team penning and barrels instead...I've changed my mind that much.
         
        07-20-2010, 05:53 PM
      #46
    Foal
    Yes, I'm referring purely to the 'broncing'.
    If you read my post, I have spoken about me not knowing the full picture, and about my honest curiosity.
    Know I have learnt that the Rodeo comprises of different things. I did not know that barrel racing etc. was included in the 'rodeo'. I thought Rodeo purely meant where they strap the horses up, plonk the rider on and see how long he can stay on.
    A lot of the videos I've watched belong to sharkonline. I'd like it if some of you could watch them and tell me if these are different events.
         
        07-20-2010, 05:55 PM
      #47
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cinnys Whinny    
    You sound like you are merely referring to bronc riding, am I right? The cowboy jumps on, spurs the horse or bull into bucking, spinning and hopping around??? This is a part of rodeo that I too do not like one bit BUT...it is just a small fraction of what rodeo really is. In my opinion you should maybe take a look at the whole picture before making up your mind so quickly. That's like saying you absolutely hate circus when you have only ever seen a clown act (not to say that bronc busting is a clown act, it is very serious especially for the rodeo clown).

    I am pretty biased in that for a long time I had a great dislike for ANYTHING Western ESPECIALLY rodeos. But, I had never actually been to a rodeo. I had never been behind the scenes. I had never seen how the horses are treated first hand. Since my move to Nebraska aka Rodeo Land (as I like to call it) I have changed my mind.
    Will you marry me, Cinnys Whinny? Seriously, though. Thank you. Our rope horses are bred to cow. You can look at their heritage and see that. They perk up when cattle come into view. My 32 year old gelding (I've had him for 27 years) comes alive if he sees a cow. He's not afraid, he's ready to play. I don't chase cows on him any more, but he gets depressed if he doesn't have something to do.

    As far as the rough stock events, the cowboys spurs are usually pretty blunt. The cowboys can't spur the bucking horses until the horse has the first jump, so like my horses are bred to cow, bucking horses are bred to buck. Same with bulls. Notice how I didn't say all or every? There are exceptions. But I try not to paint with a broad brush.


    I added your /quote back in btw, I figured you meant it to be that way :)
         
        07-20-2010, 06:06 PM
      #48
    Showing
    Even the bucking horses are generally not scared. They have a job and they know their job. The spurs are supposed to be very blunt and do not actually hurt the horse at all, just make him uncomfortable, the same with the bucking strap. Just like you cannot force a horse to work a cow if he doesn't want to, you cannot force a horse to buck if he doesn't want to. The spurs and the flank strap are just tools used to encourage the horse to do what is already ingrained in his breeding, no different than a bit and spurs on a cutting, reining, or dressage horse. Around here, the horses are usually not bucked more than 2 or 3 times a week and when they are on down time, they are exceptionally well cared for, just as well or sometimes better than most of humanity's riding horses. I know that my horses would be excited if they had a job where they only worked for maybe 30 seconds a week LOL. Do they get hurt sometimes? Absolutely, but reining horses bow tendons, jumping horses break legs, cutting horses tear up joints. Doing anything with a horse is dangerous to both the horse and rider. It may look ugly but it isn't actually that hard on the horse and most of the bronc riders have an immense amount of respect for the animals they ride.
         
        07-20-2010, 06:11 PM
      #49
    Foal
    I would really encourage you to seek other sources on the matter. Shark is pretty radical. PETA is as well. I understand they care about animal welfare, but there is always multiple sides to a story. Many of their videos are taken out of context or cut off before the entire scene is played out. PRCA (The Professional Rodeo Cowboy's Association) has resources on its website. Granted, that information will be slanted the other way. The AQHA (American Quarter Horse Association) will probably have additional information. I hope it will be helpful. I've seen many of the SHARK videos. Had I not grown up around rodeo and horses, I would have been persuaded as well.
         
        07-20-2010, 06:11 PM
      #50
    Foal
    I heart you smrobs LOL. Not literally : ) But you did a great job of trying to explain to King. Those videos are meant for the folks that want to out right ban rodeo all together. Come on over to MT for the annual Miles City Buckin Horse Sale. These contractors care very well for their stock and they bring a lot of money.
         

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