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  • Roping a sick cow with a 4 wheeler
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    01-11-2012, 08:19 PM
  #41
Yearling
Heehee yeah and that was one of the scenerios I was talking about in an earlier post where the a bull saw me and decided to go back to safety. That's what this heifer done. We tromped through the woods for half a day and found her in a catch pen
     
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    01-11-2012, 08:57 PM
  #42
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by AmazinCaucasian    
Heehee yeah and that was one of the scenerios I was talking about in an earlier post where the a bull saw me and decided to go back to safety. That's what this heifer done. We tromped through the woods for half a day and found her in a catch pen

Tee he..that was a smart heifer....if I was that heifer and seen that many guys coming for me, I would of put myself in a hog trap if I had too.
     
    01-11-2012, 11:49 PM
  #43
Yearling
For CowChick and Kevin: What kind of cows do best in your area? And what are the ranch owner's views on roping? Do yall rope and doctor sick calves and heel calves to brand?
     
    01-12-2012, 12:39 AM
  #44
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by AmazinCaucasian    
For CowChick and Kevin: What kind of cows do best in your area? And what are the ranch owner's views on roping? Do yall rope and doctor sick calves and heel calves to brand?

English bred cattle seem to do well since the winters are so cold. A Black Angus, or cross seems to get the best price come sale time. They seem to yield good(depends if your price is live or on the rail) and of course the low birth weight calves. We don't baby them..they are on the "get tough or die" program. My personal opinion, I like an Angus with a little ear, they make good moms and are hardy. I know people are a fan of the Herefords, the black baldies aren't bad. I think Herefords are weak hearted and you will be doctoring eyes all summer.

But we summer a pile of them Mexican steers through the summer. They buy them down there, turn them out in AZ and NM, ship them to us, we summer them, then they go to the feed lots in KS, CO and TX. Those Mexican cattle are pretty thin skinned and it takes a lot to keep them fed up through cold weather. We would get them in about the second week of May then ship them out about the end of September. But they are so much fun, they can be wild, or a pet, they are hardy and like to travel.


We rope everything! We rope to doctor, we rope to brand and we rope just to rope. We roped everyday. If we moved cows if nothing needed to be roped that's ok, we will rope just because it looked at us wrong! The only thing we don't rope is heavies..that's a no-no.

When we brand we will snag and drag the little guys, and the bigger ones we will head and heel. We usually swap every other day. One day we will do snag and drag, next day head and heel. I like heading and heeling. Our clean up brandings in the Fall of course are head and heel because of the size of the calves. If we snag and drag, who all is on the ground jumps on the head and holds up a front leg and they can't go anywhere. Some people use a dead man or those Nord Forks(sp.) I have never used use one. A calf table is blasphemy. You will be called the "F" word.....farmer
     
    01-12-2012, 01:28 AM
  #45
Yearling
Nice. I'm going to count on yall to teach me "Cowology". I'm weak in the cow knowledge department. I'm just a country horseshoer and trainer.

When I was in school dad worked for a place that had probly a couple thousand mama cows. They had Red Brangus. I went with him a little. He roped and doctored some sick calves some. But around here that place was an exception. These farmers frown on roping anything. There aren't hardly any working cowboys in the area and the only roping these cattlemen see is rodeo roping. They cows don't get worked horseback unless they get out and get wild.

There is a guy I shoed for that had 3 sections up in the hills. They had some good cow horses and they'd gather, sort, and cut those calves off the mamas. When they gathered he'd call me and I'd help. But when we got em penned and they started cutting I stayed out of the way cause I didn't have a clue. I mean, I turned back and rode with some cutting horse trainers but these guys were serious. It wasn't for show, and in no time they had 200 head of cows and calves separated. But one time he had 2 of us go down and pen up this sick yearling so they could doctor it. We rode down there and tried to drive him in on our ropin horses. We had him right at the pens but he turned back on us a couple times so I roped him. He was about to die anyway, and I didn't feel like chasing him around. Anyway, next time I saw the guy I asked him if the calf had a miraculous recovery or died. He told me he died of a stretched neck and blamed it on me :(
     
    01-12-2012, 01:55 AM
  #46
Trained
Just wanted to drop in and let you know I love reading this thread. I have never roped, but I help my dad out with the cattle on the properties he manages. You've inspired me to buy a rope and have a go at learning. Dad runs Black Angus, Herefords, Murrey Greys and Black Baldys. We just run them into the yards for marking/sorting. We sort the bulls out of the cows in the paddock though, that's always fun, they give us a run for our money - Dad likes to have me on the horse because they often run into the dam because they know the bike can't follow. They look mighty surprised when I follow them right in and crack my stockwhip on their ass! One got me cornered in a yard one day and got his head up under my horses belly. He'd never sidepassed so fast in his life!

Anyways, carry on...
     
    01-12-2012, 10:34 AM
  #47
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by AmazinCaucasian    
There is a guy I shoed for that had 3 sections up in the hills. They had some good cow horses and they'd gather, sort, and cut those calves off the mamas. When they gathered he'd call me and I'd help. But when we got em penned and they started cutting I stayed out of the way cause I didn't have a clue. I mean, I turned back and rode with some cutting horse trainers but these guys were serious. It wasn't for show, and in no time they had 200 head of cows and calves separated. But one time he had 2 of us go down and pen up this sick yearling so they could doctor it. We rode down there and tried to drive him in on our ropin horses. We had him right at the pens but he turned back on us a couple times so I roped him. He was about to die anyway, and I didn't feel like chasing him around. Anyway, next time I saw the guy I asked him if the calf had a miraculous recovery or died. He told me he died of a stretched neck and blamed it on me :(
See, that just seems backwards to me!!!! Our theory is rope them quiet and fast so they don't get ran around to get them penned. Running them around is what kills them when they are sick, not roping them! Plus when your 15 miles from a set up pens, that is your only option. That is why roping is important to us. And why we try to rope everyday to get good so we don't cattle around. Roping is probably the fun frustrating thing I have ever done. When I rope good I am on the top of the world,and when I rope bad I feel like jumping off a bridge..lol. And I have to work hard at it....my husband and can not rope for months, go to a ranch rodeo and crank it on. I don't rope for a week and it looks like it was my first day. Any ways...

As for the sorting, I suck at sorting too. That's when I wish I would of went to work at a feedyard, that's where you learn to sort fast. When we ship calves in the fall we do it all in one day. So we gather into the pens sort all the calves off (1000 pair). The buyers are out and they put a sort on them, go across the scales and onto a truck. We have a big crew that day, usually 7 or 8 of us. Wean them on diesel smoke!

These people here in this part of Texas don't do much roping either, their idea of a branding is driving out with the cake feeder on the back of the truck bait them in a pen and run them through the chute and calf table.
I had to laugh the other day, there is a real nice house down the road with pipe rail fence and a little bunch of Brahma cows. The guy was out there penning them up with his golf cart!!! Way to cowboy....
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    01-12-2012, 10:47 AM
  #48
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by wild_spot    
Just wanted to drop in and let you know I love reading this thread. I have never roped, but I help my dad out with the cattle on the properties he manages. You've inspired me to buy a rope and have a go at learning. Dad runs Black Angus, Herefords, Murrey Greys and Black Baldys. We just run them into the yards for marking/sorting. We sort the bulls out of the cows in the paddock though, that's always fun, they give us a run for our money - Dad likes to have me on the horse because they often run into the dam because they know the bike can't follow. They look mighty surprised when I follow them right in and crack my stockwhip on their ass! One got me cornered in a yard one day and got his head up under my horses belly. He'd never sidepassed so fast in his life!

Anyways, carry on...
That's cool! One of my real good friends is from AU. I met her when she was here on a work visa. She wanted me to back with her, she used to work on a cattle station...I have always wanted to go over and work to say I did it.

We have used a bike too, it is real handy when you are short handed and need to move a lot in a short time. With two people horse back and a guy on a bike we can gather a couple thousand steers and push to a new allotment in no time at all. I hate to admit we did that because it is not really "cowboying" and I just mentioned in the above post that using your golf cart isn't cool...but it sure is nice in a pinch! LOL
     
    01-12-2012, 02:22 PM
  #49
Yearling
Wild Spot, you're in the right place.

I hope I'm not repeating myself, but I have a couple AtV stories. Once a guy called to catch 12 wild brangus heifers. They were 500 weights and run like deer! This was my pre-dog days and we got lucky and 7 of em ran into a pen for us. The others we roped and the owner was on big Yamaha Grizzly. We went through a sandy creek and his 4 wheeler got stuck. We gave him hell for a few minutes and told him "We have the original 4 wheel drives" and I pulled him out. Well, the next one we got after just about outran us and I missed. All the sudden this dude comes flying past me on that Grizzly and knocks this ole girl down and I trotted up there and dropped a loop on her head. That's when I quit runnin my mouth. Yes it wasn't very traditional and not pretty at all, but pretty don't always get the job done
     
    01-12-2012, 02:33 PM
  #50
Yearling
Another ATV story I can remember is one time the guy I mentioned up in the hills that I gathered for bought a big place and there was 100 head of WILD Charlais (sp?) runnin on it that had to be removed. No pens and nobody wanted to build any, and they figgered these ole mamas would probly run through them anyways, for they were particularly crazy. So instead of killing a couple horses to just rope every one, my(very creative)buddy builds a "cow knocker downer" brush guard on the front of his Polaris 4 wheeler and commences to chase cows. Some of those cows would come out of the brush and chase a man on horses or ATV, and the 4 wheeler did a good job. He'd get em wore down and then either push them over, drive astaddle of em and tie em up, or have a guy on a horse rope em while they were tired. Us hillbillies are unconventional, but we have fun

BTW, the guy I'm talkin about's brother is the one who roped a gator on a crazy Impressive bred colt and the gator did the "death roll" up the rope right into the saddle.
     

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