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    12-07-2011, 12:02 AM
  #61
Weanling
I personally think their reining has better horsemanship than some of our shows and awww poor horse tripping but I love that rope work.
     
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    12-07-2011, 12:17 AM
  #62
Trained
Bubba, there is a rules about disqualification.....

PRCA RULES GOVERNING THE CARE AND TREATMENT OF LIVESTOCK
AT PRCA SANCTIONED RODEOS
The Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association (PRCA) has been enforcing rules to protect
The livestock participating in their sanctioned events since 1947. Through the years,
The PRCA has created the most comprehensive set of animal welfare rules in the sport of
Rodeo, creating a model for other rodeo associations to follow.
1. Rule 9.0. General. These rules are intended to ensure the humane treatment of
Rodeo animals and shall be in effect for all PRCA-sanctioned events. No animal shall be
Treated inhumanely by any Member.
2. Rule R 9.1. Sore, lame, sick or injured animal. Animals for all events will be inspected before the draw, and no
Sore, lame, sick or injured animal or animal with impaired eyesight shall be permitted in the draw at any time. Should an animal
Become sick or incapacitated between the time it is drawn and the time it is scheduled to be used in competition, that
Animal shall not be used in competition and another animal shall be drawn for the contestant.
3. Rule 9.1.1. Veterinarian. A rodeo committee shall ensure that a veterinarian is present and on-site for every performance
And/or section of slack. Any rodeo committee failing to do so shall be subject to a fine of $500 per performance
And/or section of slack per rodeo.
4. Rule 9.2. Rowels. No locked rowels, or rowels that will be locked on spurs may be used on bareback or saddle
Bronc horses. Spurs must be dulled.
5. Rule 9.2.1. Removal of an injured animal. A conveyance must be available, supplied by the rodeo committee, and
Shall be used, where practicable, to remove animals from the arena in case of injury. The conveyance must be large
Enough to remove a horse or bull. Injured calves shall be removed from the arena in a pickup truck, calf stretcher or by conveyance.
Animals removed from the arena pursuant to this section shall be placed in a situation as isolated and comfortable
As possible to reduce stress.
6. Rule 9.2.1. Must be humane. Any injured livestock shall be humanely removed from the arena before continuing
The rodeo contest or performance.
7. Rule 9.3. No Sharp Objects in Cinch, Saddle, Girth or Flank Straps. No sharp or cutting objects in cinch, saddle
Girth, or flank straps shall be permitted. Flank straps used for horses must either be sheepskin-lined or neoprene-lined and
Shall be of the quick release type. Sheepskin-lined or neoprene lined flank straps shall be place on the animal so the lined
Portion is over both flanks of the animals. In the bull riding, a soft cotton rope at least 5/8” in diameter is acceptable as a
Flank strap and does not require the sheepskin or neoprene lining.
8. Rule 9.4. Prods and Other Artificial Stimuli. Standard electric prods shall be used only as specified in these Official
Rodeo Rules and in the Bylaws. If a prod is used, the animal shall only be touched on the hip or shoulder area. No
Other artificial stimuli shall be used (with the exception of rodeo equipment and gear commonly used and accepted in connection
With the respective events at PRCA-sanctioned rodeos.)
9. Rule 10.1.5. Prods. In the riding events, use of prods and similar devices is prohibited. The only exceptions shall
Be in the saddle bronc riding and bareback riding, and only in the case of a known chute stalling animals, and only if agreed
Upon by the contestant, the stock contractor and the judge before the contestant’s competition begins. In this instance, the
Prod shall not exceed 12 inches in length. Use of a prod without the agreement of the contestant, stock contractor, and the
Judge before the contestant’s competition begins in the saddle bronc and the bareback riding, or use of a prod in the bull riding
At any time shall result in a fine of $1000, doubling with each violation to the stock contractor and the contestant will receive
The automatic option of a reride.
10. • Rule 3.2.2 No Animal May be in the Draw Twice on the Same Day. In all riding events, stock can not be placed in
The draw twice in the same say, with the exception of rerides, unless approved by the event representative and the Director
Of Rodeo Administration.
11. Rule 4.8.3 Unsafe Arena Conditions. If the arena conditions are deemed at any time to be unsafe by the arena director,
A majority of the event representatives present, any judge, or the primary stock contractor, competition may be
Stopped until which time the arena conditions are deemed satisfactory by the individual or individuals who initially determined
That arena conditions were unsafe.
12. Rule 8.4. No Hold Overs. No cattle that have been used may be held over from one calendar year to the next.
13. Rule 8.4.1. No switching of events. No steers may switched in events unless approved by the event representative
Or the Director of Rodeo Administration.
14. Rule 8.5 Running of Timed Event Stock. All timed-event stock shall be run though event chutes and through the
Arena prior to the start of contest where conditions permit.
15. Rule 8.8. Unsatisfactory Animals. An Event Representative may declare particular animal unsatisfactory. Upon notification,
Either written or verbal, the stock contractor or Rodeo Committee shall eliminate such animal(s) from competition
Draw.
     
    12-07-2011, 12:22 AM
  #63
Banned
I just read through the rules, and did not see where it said that....
     
    12-07-2011, 12:26 AM
  #64
Trained
Out of all my years of working cattle...and we run several thousand head of yearlings every summer, On top of a thousand head of mama cows, I haven't seen anything drop dead out of stress that wasn't already sick. And if you seen something drop dead at a rodeo, then yes, shame on the stock contractor for not seeing the animal was sick before hauling it to a show.
     
    12-07-2011, 12:30 AM
  #65
Banned
Haven't seen them die at a rodeo, but at a sale barn. The vet I was working under said it was from chronic stress and "cowboying." One big cow from the same bunch was blinded from the veins in her eye busting because she was roped, choked, and dragged behind a horse or truck.

The point I was trying ot make, though, was just that stress is also, well, not good for animals. It tends to make them get sick and really wrecks their quality of life.
     
    12-07-2011, 12:32 AM
  #66
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by bubba13    
I just read through the rules, and did not see where it said that....

My bad... but I guess you got to see some of the PRCA rules..lol

New guideline for Jerk-down rule:

If a calf is jerked off all four feet and its body touches the ground prior to the roper reaching the calf, the roper will be disqualified from that go-round.
     
    12-07-2011, 12:37 AM
  #67
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by bubba13    
Haven't seen them die at a rodeo, but at a sale barn. The vet I was working under said it was from chronic stress and "cowboying." One big cow from the same bunch was blinded from the veins in her eye busting because she was roped, choked, and dragged behind a horse or truck.

The point I was trying ot make, though, was just that stress is also, well, not good for animals. It tends to make them get sick and really wrecks their quality of life.

You are right, we try to handle cattle in a fairly low stress enviroment. However 30 seconds of being roped in an arena is different than being chased around a pasture before someone gets something roped, and dragged into a trailer hauled to a sale barn and dumped out.
     
    12-07-2011, 12:40 AM
  #68
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horsesdontlie    
I skipped over most of the videos, sorry for double posting. I've seen the horses used for these events where I was from. The horses the charro's ride are beautiful and well taken care of while the other horses are not, kept in a back lot, skinny and stressed. I rarely side with agencies like shark or peta. Just a whole bunch of uneducated, bleeding hearts, crying that the world isn't fair in my opinion. Yet from what I have seen from the Charreadas in Pico Rivera, I don't like their sport with animals that they are not riding. Though on the other hand, I can agree they have amazing horses, amazing roping and riding talent.

I never mind having debates as I always try to see other people's opinions, its why I ask questions. But now that I understand your point, I will be out of the conversation for the most part.
LOL, don't get scared! Join in, like you have been!
     
    12-07-2011, 12:42 AM
  #69
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by natisha    
Appology accepted & appreciated.
Yes, both sides seem to ham it up too much.
I agree.
     
    12-07-2011, 12:46 AM
  #70
Banned
Quote:
Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
My bad... but I guess you got to see some of the PRCA rules..lol

New guideline for Jerk-down rule:


If a calf is jerked off all four feet and its body touches the ground prior to the roper reaching the calf, the roper will be disqualified from that go-round.
Seriously? Because I am watching the NFR roping live right now, and the calves are being "jerked down" left and right, and there's not a peep said about anything besides the time and how talented the guy throwing the loop is. They definitely aren't getting DQ'd, and they definitely are running fast, money-winning times (and the calves are, definitely, lying on the ground when they reach them.) Actually, they just now blamed the fact that a guy missed his calf on the fact that his horse didn't stop quickly enough.

Quote:
Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
You are right, we try to handle cattle in a fairly low stress enviroment. However 30 seconds of being roped in an arena is different than being chased around a pasture before someone gets something roped, and dragged into a trailer hauled to a sale barn and dumped out.
Definitely. But the whole rodeo environment isn't exactly conducive to fostering a stress-free environment. Loud, crowded, lots of scary stuff going on....it's all a matter of degree, sure, but you'd get fried from a feedlot crew if that's what it was like. The cattle sure wouldn't gain weight in that state.
     



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