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Continuing the saddle design....Forms, now the Trees

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        11-29-2013, 07:39 PM
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    Foal
    Continuing the saddle design....Forms, now the Trees

    So, we have now done the saddle forms and just received the saddle trees to try. I thought following this process I would be able to judge if we are selecting the right saddle fit. But, not with the forms, and still not sure with the trees....

    Here are the Trees:

    Joby - 14 HH RMSH

    Joby - LT Tree Pictures-video Photos by Mike_and_Helena | Photobucket

    Bart - 15.2 HH KMSH

    Bart - SE Tree Pictures Photos by Mike_and_Helena | Photobucket

    Let us know what you think. I am still hopeful we are going in the right direction....

    Helena and Mike
         
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        11-29-2013, 08:55 PM
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    The tree for Bart is alarmingly close to his withers. I think the bars are too wider apart, thus allowing the fork to be too low.
         
        11-29-2013, 09:24 PM
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    They are both too wide and sit too close to the wither, IMHO.

    Are these full quarter horse bars or semi?
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        11-29-2013, 09:44 PM
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    Foal
    The one for Bart is too wide but, they did not have a 7 1/4" (the tree on him is 7 1/2") and just wanted to get a look at the tree. They felt they could tell if the 7 1/4" would work using this tree.
         
        11-29-2013, 09:46 PM
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    Foal
    Allison, the tree for Joby is a Gaited tree (probably extra wide). The tree for Bart is a Mule tree.
         
        11-29-2013, 09:54 PM
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    Green Broke
    They both look to wide to me as well. Also, it looks like the tree on Joby might have a little bridging going on since it isn't sitting flat on the back.
         
        11-29-2013, 10:11 PM
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    The Standard LT tree has a 6.5" Gullet

    The Standard SE tree has a 6.75" Gullet

    That being said, you can order either of those trees with wider gullets, but I did not see Steele's designation of +1/4 or +1/2 that would say they were non-standard, but maybe the Saddle Maker ordered them wider than standard and Steele forgot to mark them with the addition....

    Joby's tree looks like it has the correct angle on the front of the bar but way too wide, the back of the bars are not flat enough but angles are good.

    Bart's tree also has the correct angle in the front of the bar but way too wide, the back of the bar has the wrong angle.


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        11-29-2013, 10:45 PM
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    Originally Posted by MikeTucson    
    Allison, the tree for Joby is a Gaited tree (probably extra wide). The tree for Bart is a Mule tree.

    Mule trees are not made for horses. Mules often tend to have a VERY straight back and their trees are made for that. They will seldom fit the more curved backs of horses, IME.




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        11-30-2013, 05:22 PM
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    Foal
    So, no one liked the SE tree (including the saddle fitter). Since I have the LT tree we put it on Bart. It is definitely wayyy too big and it comes up in the back. I am not a fan of the LT for Bart.

    Bart - LT Tree Photos by Mike_and_Helena | Photobucket

    Let me know what you think of this one.
         
        11-30-2013, 05:25 PM
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    Foal
    Kevin both the SE and LT are +1/2. They are thinking about the LT for Joby, they think it looks close and are not sure if we can get something closer. Hopefully they have something to say Monday...

    Thanks
    Mike and Helena
         

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