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Continuing the saddle design....Forms, now the Trees

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        11-30-2013, 05:35 PM
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    Mike, that is even worse.

    What I do not understand is why is the LT so wide, they are supposed to have a 6.5" Gullet.

    You mentioned a 7.25" Gullet and a 7.5" Gullet, those are Narrow Draft and/or Extra Wide QH Trees.

    Of course when they line the bottom of the bars with leather and fleece that will raise the clearance a little bit, bit no way can those tees even come close to working, why they are starting off with 2-3 sizes too wide of a Gullet sized sample tree is very confusing to me......

    From the original fit forms you posted a while back, the LT and J forms looked the closest to me, both have 6.5" Gullets normally and steep rafter angles.

    I would suggest going back to the saddle maker and asking for the trees that are more in line with the Standards that Steele makes, not these Trees that have had 3/4 of an Inch added to the standard Gullet size......

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        11-30-2013, 05:55 PM
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    Kevin, I may have mis-represented the trees in the beginning (likely from my lack of understanding). These are the standard Lt and SE (both+1/2). They sent the SE +1/2 because it was the only one they had. The LT they sent for Joby +1/2 because he currently rides in an extra wide saddle. I understand their reasoning.

    Thinking about the LT on Bart I am now thinking that the back is up so high because the front is too low?
         
        11-30-2013, 08:27 PM
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    Originally Posted by MikeTucson    
    Kevin, I may have mis-represented the trees in the beginning (likely from my lack of understanding). These are the standard Lt and SE (both+1/2). They sent the SE +1/2 because it was the only one they had. The LT they sent for Joby +1/2 because he currently rides in an extra wide saddle. I understand their reasoning.

    Thinking about the LT on Bart I am now thinking that the back is up so high because the front is too low?
    Yes, the back will flip up when the front is too wide.

    Not sure what brand of X-wide Saddle as brands vary a little, but I just cannot see Joby in any X-Wide Saddle and it fit properly.

    Looking back at all the pics and fit forms, I might suggest Joby with an LT +1/4 (6.75") and Bart with an LT or PJ as a standard 6.5", there are way too many problems with the SE on Bart even with a narrower gullet


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        12-01-2013, 07:53 PM
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    Originally Posted by MikeTucson    
    So, no one liked the SE tree (including the saddle fitter). Since I have the LT tree we put it on Bart. It is definitely wayyy too big and it comes up in the back. I am not a fan of the LT for Bart.

    Bart - LT Tree Photos by Mike_and_Helena | Photobucket

    Let me know what you think of this one.

    NO!!

    Can you not see that even without any weight on it, the tree is almost touching the withers? Even with the added leather of the saddle, this will probably do damage to the withers.
         

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