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post #11 of 25 Old 07-07-2014, 05:41 PM Thread Starter
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Alright, I will be making a tracing here tonight!

I'm planning on going the brand spanking new route, just because I want to make sure if fits as well as possible. If by some chance I come across something used that will allow a trial, well WHOO HOO I will go for it!

I have a picture of him from about a year and a half ago before we started any real work. He is on a little bit of a hill. This is about what his back looks like now.
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post #12 of 25 Old 07-07-2014, 06:15 PM
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I'm an expert Morgan saddle fitter ;) Not really, but I have a Morgan mare and I tried about 20 something saddles on her.

Here is a list of Dressage saddles that work well for a typical Morgan:

Laser Amulet
Stubben Scandica
Thornhill Klasse
Thornhill Vienna
Roosli Saddles
L&R Saddles

For H/J saddles, I would recommend a Pessoa Rodrigo.
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Oh I ADORE him! OK, I love all things Morgan, but those Olde Tyme heavier Morgans are the coolest ever (in my book). Does he have Lippit lines? Doesn't matter what his lines are, he's Da Bomb! Sure-footed like no tomorrow, I bet?

That back isn't really that curvy. Get a saddle that can sit low enough in the front, and
I think it will be quite workable.

I ride a Morgan with the same build. Attached image. If he were mine, I'd go through the work of getting the right saddle. Because he isn't, I just slap a treeless English saddle on him. But I do know the challenge of that back.

If you consider Duett, contact Nancy at Duett. If she can't make it fit, no one can.

Frlsgirl, if you've gone through 20 saddles on your Morgan, you know far more about fitting these special horses than most. I hereby knight you... Expert Morgan-fitter.
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Frlsgirl, if you've gone through 20 saddles on your Morgan, you know far more about fitting these special horses than most. I hereby knight you... Expert Morgan-fitter.
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I'm an expert Morgan saddle fitter ;) Not really, but I have a Morgan mare and I tried about 20 something saddles on her.

Here is a list of Dressage saddles that work well for a typical Morgan:

Laser Amulet
Stubben Scandica
Thornhill Klasse
Thornhill Vienna
Roosli Saddles
L&R Saddles

For H/J saddles, I would recommend a Pessoa Rodrigo.
I forgot to add Albions to the list. We both really liked the Albion OC saddle fit. I tried two different Passier saddles on her. She moved well in the Cambria but the panels are too curvy for a Morgan's back. The PS Baum was a nightmare; ugly, I couldn't post the trot without injuring myself, and the saddle swallowed her whole. She had her ears pinned for the full 2 minutes of our trial ride.
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I'm an expert Morgan saddle fitter ;) Not really, but I have a Morgan mare and I tried about 20 something saddles on her.

Here is a list of Dressage saddles that work well for a typical Morgan:

Laser Amulet
Stubben Scandica
Thornhill Klasse
Thornhill Vienna
Roosli Saddles
L&R Saddles

For H/J saddles, I would recommend a Pessoa Rodrigo.
I will look into these as well, thank you!
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Oh I ADORE him! OK, I love all things Morgan, but those Olde Tyme heavier Morgans are the coolest ever (in my book). Does he have Lippit lines? Doesn't matter what his lines are, he's Da Bomb! Sure-footed like no tomorrow, I bet?
Unfortunately I don't know anything about his breeding. He didn't come with papers and I've asked his previous owner about any information on who bred him and all that. Haven't gotten anything. Trust me. I was VERY disappointed!

He is the BEST though! He is one of those that will take you anywhere, do anything. He has been a great teacher. I've developed quite the seat riding him. He lets you know when you aren't doing something right.

His back looks just like the picture you posted!

I'm so excited to finally have gotten some advice on all this! Luckily I have a western saddle that fits him pretty well. So I can still ride. I just REALLY want to go english.
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I will look into these as well, thank you!
If it's in your budget, flrsgirl's Albion suggestion is very good. They are lovely saddles, and I've seen them fit some pretty propane-tank shaped, finicky horses.

I also second her Pessoa suggestion. I haven't owned one, but I rode in one of their jumping saddles on an oh-lordy-wide Belgian Draft horse, and I acquired some serious saddle-envy.

In general, on eBay you will find that the more expensive the saddle, the higher the chance that they'll allow a trial. Keep your options open. Get everything in writing. If going through a private seller, use Paypal and have the trial policy in writing in the transaction to protect yourself.
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Here's a pic of the Morgan I'm currently riding. Look familiar? They must share some relatives somewhere.

Here he is modeling an old Passier on the PS-Baum wide tree. See why it doesn't work? The angle of the tree-points matches him beautifully, almost perfect. However, the arch of the pommel/gullet simply is not generous enough to be able to reach sufficiently far around the sides of that extremely thick/wide wither, and the front of the saddle sits too high up. Hence the hideous chair-seat.

Don't do what I did here.

This horse camped out in my yard the past two weeks. I love him too much to not ride him. Which brings me to a couple other options for you. I rode him in my treeless Heather Moffett saddle that I have laying around for difficult boys like this. He loved it. I didn't love it quite as much, but I could get used to it. I definitely prefer a well-fitting tree. The Ansur is another treeless English option for you. I like those better than the Heather Moffett personally. One is too soft. The other is too hard...
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Here's a pic of the Morgan I'm currently riding. Look familiar? They must share some relatives somewhere.

Oh my goodness yes! Although this beauty has a much nicer neck!

I LOVE MORGANS!! Oh my goodness I just want to crawl up there and take him for a spin! Duke is actually from Iowa.. Are you anywhere near there?

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