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        11-29-2013, 02:05 AM
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    Fitting saddles myself (short term)

    I have 4 saddles and 2 horses, they are both thorougbreds, and similar(to my untrained eye) in shape/width except for DJs wither being more prominant than Mitch's.

    I would watch the videos in the sticky thread, but dad would kill me if he realised how much internet would be used loading so many videos, so I'll watch them when I can.

    I have 4 saddles, and at least one that I know definitely doesn't fit me so that will be getting the flick shortly (my butt grew).
    And for reference, I'm not relying on the internet to fit my saddles long term, I do have plans on going to a saddle fitter as soon as I can afford it and when he is down this way, he will be fixing my dressage saddle while he is down here, providing it fits at least one of my horses, and me.

    For now though, if I were to do my own saddle fitting session on Sunday, providing the weather holds, can I post pictures of the saddle on the horse, and me in the saddle to get opinions on whether the saddle fits well enough to ride in short term? I don't work my horses hard, I can't right now due to my health, but I do ride a couple times a week, rather short rides etc, mainly Mitch but DJ will be getting bought back in soon hopefully, provided I have a saddle to ride her in.

    I'm going to post a couple pictures of my leather dressage saddle for now, but that is mainly to see that I am getting the right photo angles, or whether I need photos of my entire horse as well as close ups.
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    PS, I feel like a bit of an idiot needing to ask whether my saddles fit my horses, but I would rather ask a more experienced eye and look like an unknowledgable idiot than not ask and wonder why on earth my horse is misbehaving. But like I said, I WILL be making the trip with both my horses to see a real life saddle fitter as soon as I can, this is only a temporary measure.
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        11-29-2013, 02:42 AM
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    That last photo isn't meant to be there -_- I deleted it from the post because I realised it was blurry but apparently my laptop thought it should stay there.
         
        11-29-2013, 02:59 AM
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    Green Broke
    You need photos front view, back view and side view

    From that last photo from the front view I'd say you'd be alright with it, as long as there's a 2-3 finger gap in between the gullet and the wither.

    Make sure when you get on as well the gaps still there.
         
        11-29-2013, 03:16 AM
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    Cool thank you RedTree, do I need to include any of the entire horse with the saddle on, or just with a close up of the saddle?

    I hope so, it looks comfortable haha!
    Yeah, I'll try them all on and hop on, check the clearance then ride for 5-10 minutes to make sure Mitch and DJ are still moving properly underneath me, and my position isn't put out of whack any more than it is normally
         
        11-29-2013, 03:19 AM
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    Green Broke
    Close up and further away would be good :)

    I'm no expert either, but after years of having ill fitting saddles I've done some research and had a few saddle fitters out (soo expensive) and I try and get my saddle fitting the best I can and if I still think my horse is uncomfortable I'll get the saddle fitter out
         
        11-29-2013, 03:28 AM
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    Awesome thank you

    There's a travelling saddler that comes to one of the saddleries about an hour away from me, they have an arena out the back of the saddlery so I figure I'll take advantage of that when I can afford to, but until then I'll see if I can't flick off a few saddles. I mean really, who needs 4 saddles for 2 horses if I can get one good saddle to fit each of them.
    I would like to get one good dressage saddle, and one good close contact both with interchangeable gullets, but my only issue with interchangeable gullets is that it changes the front width but not the back. That is a long time away though haha
         
        11-29-2013, 05:08 AM
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    Green Broke
    The best pictures for advice would be on the side, from behind and then from the front letting you see the saddle and angle of the shoulder.

    As far as interchangeable gullets are concerned - yes they only change the front width and not the back. However, with standard saddles you can't change the front or the back so it's not like you're losing out. You just can't expect it to fit all horses.
         
        11-29-2013, 05:20 AM
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    Thank you Saskia, I'll do my best on Sunday, or tomorrow if the weather forecast turns out wrong.

    This is true, but I was taught that saddles should have the same width in the channel at the front and the back, so if that's the case then I would rather have separate saddles for different horses rather than one saddle that has a changing channel width from front to back if I have to change the gullet. I'm just confusing myself now
    My dream saddles are the Bates Elevation Deep seat and the Bates Isabell, but I'll keep dreaming for a looooong loooong time
         
        11-29-2013, 06:48 AM
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    Green Broke
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    Awesome thank you

    There's a travelling saddler that comes to one of the saddleries about an hour away from me, they have an arena out the back of the saddlery so I figure I'll take advantage of that when I can afford to, but until then I'll see if I can't flick off a few saddles. I mean really, who needs 4 saddles for 2 horses if I can get one good saddle to fit each of them.
    I would like to get one good dressage saddle, and one good close contact both with interchangeable gullets, but my only issue with interchangeable gullets is that it changes the front width but not the back. That is a long time away though haha

    Haha I have 4 saddles for one horse one only 2 really fit, and I only really ride in one, I need to downsize a bit lol
         
        12-01-2013, 09:10 AM
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    Yearling
    Hmm. From the front view pic I tend to disagree on the fit. Difficult to be accurate, but from your horse's shape the saddle looks a bit narrow. On a horse that falls in behind the shoulder the angles of the front arch should be parallel with the back of the shoulder whereas yours looks as if it's parallel with the muscle behind the shoulder. If that is the case it'll be too tight - as the shoulder blade rotates when the horse steps forward the tissue over its rear edge will be pinched between bone and the tree point.

    You ought to be able to check this if you girth the saddle up, so it's tight enough to mount, then put the flat of your hand in the channel alongside the horse's wither before running it downwards between horse and saddle. You should feel firm pressure but not enough to stop your hand running right down to the bottom of the panel. If this feels okay you then need to do the same while lifting a front leg so the shoulder rotates. This is a bit awkward to do on your own until you get the hang of it - it helps to have an assistant lift the leg while you feel under the saddle.

    The other thing to bear in mind is that dressage saddles tend to sit slightly further back than GPs - yours looks a tad too far forward - which means you can sometimes get away with a slightly narrower fit. Not ideal, perhaps, but handy if you've got nothing else to ride in.

    Best of luck :)
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