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        07-11-2014, 11:01 PM
      #21
    Yearling
    I'm not an expert so I hope someone corrects me if I've got the wrong idea.

    I like the Circle Y the best so far. It may not have a wither clearance to spare, but on the other hand it settled into a nice place with a good fit of the angles.

    If it was too wide it would have set lower in front causing the back to pop up. Which it does not. It seems well balanced on him to me, with and without the pad.

    How does it ride? How does the other one ride?
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        07-12-2014, 12:49 AM
      #22
    Weanling
    Dante is a saint for putting up with me so well and this drawn out saddle fitting process.

    The Jim Sands seemed to ride really nice. Dante walked in circles, trot circles, cantered circles ( which is kinda new for him... he mainly just cantered in straight lines... so like I said he's still pretty green), he didnt seem to short stride and he really stretched himself out while cantering. However, its hard to be a good judge of his movements and if they are improved because he is still green and hasnt been ridden in months so he's not perfect to start with. I will say this though, in the jim sands he was extremely relaxed with a willing attitude. The only issue possibly was the tiny little buck he did while doing the circle the first time, but was that saddle fit or him being a young green horse that was being a young horse? And after that he never offered to buck or pinned his ears. Overall Dante seemed to be a very happy horse, from my point of view. (of course I was finally riding my dream horse again and he was being such a good boy and the saddle was very comfy... my eyes were a little starry )

    However today after putting it on him and looking at it through less rose tinted glasses and also having my boss out just as another set of diserning eyes he too thought that it looked too narrow up top.

    The last time I rode him, before I got these saddles and before I really knew anything about saddle fit, I took him on an 45 min trail ride. He was hot, pulling on the bit, high strung, groaned a lot, and on the home stretch he gave a huge flying leap into the air completely out of the blue while at a walk... after that I knew the saddle didnt fit because A. It was his first time riding in that particular saddle and his attitude screamed miserable... B. Never had he bucked like that before, not without warning or reason. Even then his bucks were not all that often. Just when running and overly excited.

    As for the Circle Y I have not ridden in it yet as I didnt have time today. However I may get a ride in tomorrow on it. Sitting in the saddle off the horse it feels good. I originally been thinking that I would need a 16 inch seat but the circle y and Jim Sands are both 15-15 1/2 inch seats and I felt way more secure in it (jim sands) than in the 16 inch fake.
         
        07-12-2014, 12:54 AM
      #23
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by LadyChevalier    
    As for the Circle Y I have not ridden in it yet as I didnt have time today. However I may get a ride in tomorrow on it. Sitting in the saddle off the horse it feels good. I originally been thinking that I would need a 16 inch seat but the circle y and Jim Sands are both 15-15 1/2 inch seats and I felt way more secure in it (jim sands) than in the 16 inch fake.
    That could also be just because of the way the saddle is made and the way the fenders hang.
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        07-12-2014, 01:33 AM
      #24
    Green Broke
    I think the Circle Y looks like the best fit (over the internet, for whatever that's worth).

    Glad you got rid of the fake. Any of these other saddles are much better than that. Even if it were a Corriente, the price would be high. You can order a brand new one for about $700 (and they are all FQHB's).

    But even as big a fan of Corriente as I am, if that Circle Y fit me and my horse and was in the same price range, that particular Circle Y is what I would be buying. It looks like a really high quality older one.
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        07-12-2014, 01:48 AM
      #25
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum    
    That could also be just because of the way the saddle is made and the way the fenders hang.
    This is very true. I've also never ridden in a roper before the Jim Sands so it could also just be the style. I can see why ropers are pretty popular. My farrier says that's all he will ever ride in.
         
        07-12-2014, 01:54 AM
      #26
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    Originally Posted by LadyChevalier    
    This is very true. I've also never ridden in a roper before the Jim Sands so it could also just be the style. I can see why ropers are pretty popular. My farrier says that's all he will ever ride in.
    I had the hardest time finding my best friend a saddle because she only likes the way ropers and barrel saddles feel, she needed FQHB, and we had a fairly limited budget. Found plenty of trail/pleasure and equitation-style saddles that fit the criteria, but she doesn't like the seat on them.
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        07-12-2014, 02:02 AM
      #27
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
    I think the Circle Y looks like the best fit (over the internet, for whatever that's worth).

    Glad you got rid of the fake. Any of these other saddles are much better than that. Even if it were a Corriente, the price would be high. You can order a brand new one for about $700 (and they are all FQHB's).

    But even as big a fan of Corriente as I am, if that Circle Y fit me and my horse and was in the same price range, that particular Circle Y is what I would be buying. It looks like a really high quality older one.
    It really is sweet saddle... I saw it in her shop when I picked up the fake on my birthday and admired it a bit. Then the when I went to return the fake I saw it again and it was like "pick me pick me!" and asked if it might fit my other gelding better than the ammerman and she said to just take it and try it out. Turns out it was wayyyy to wide for him (Drake) and too long for his very short back. Didnt think to try it on Dante until today.
         
        07-12-2014, 05:32 PM
      #28
    Weanling
    Hey everyone! I managed to get a ride in on Dante today in between rain storms and I think I found the winner! Dante rode really well in the Circle Y and even though I didnt canter him in circles due to the ground being slippery he did turn much smoother in tighter circles than any saddle so far. And I rode to my boss' farm and had him reach under the saddle with me on Dante and he said while it was snug it wasnt too tight- said it was a huge improvement from the other saddle where he could just hardly get his meatier hands under the saddle. The only issue was again the wrong size blanket- length wise. As the saddle kinda settled being cinched up the blanket's wither notch did rub on his withers. Not the saddle tho, I checked and the saddle was a good two fingers clear of his withers/spine.

    I am also happier with the ride of the saddle. The rough out was nice on the other saddle but it did kinda make it hard for me to post with his big trot. I was actually able to keep my seat with him better in this saddle too. I am very pleased with it! It may not be perfect but it is pretty darn close!

    Thank you all for your opinions and sharing your knowledge and advice! My horses thank you as well!!!
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        07-12-2014, 05:36 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    And here is a cute pic of my boss and Dante
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        07-12-2014, 06:12 PM
      #30
    Super Moderator
    What I can see from this image of the custom saddle you tried,



    Is that the top of the bars, under where the concho is, are pushing down hard into his shoulder yet the lower part of the bar flare too far away from the shoulder. I think that means the angle of the bar is too flat. Not vertical enough.

    Glad you got a well fitting saddle. He looks simply spectacular in it!
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