Dutch Warmbloods

Relic by War Relic are thoroughbreds going back to the 30's--40's and are part of the Samber line. Queen of Peru is also TB and also part of the Samber line.

I rode (once) a 5 yr old KPWN gelding earlier this year that the breeder did not get along with. He was bred for show jumping. I found him sensitive and performance bred for sure, meaning his mind wandered very easily if it wasn't put to a task. If he wasn't focused on performing it allowed him to be spooky too. This was a singular experience and I realize different lines produce different offspring.

My Oldenburg (from Bajazzo [German import] and the Hannoverian G-line) has high trainability, great movement (lots of health issues) and is very calm. I think if anything happens to him I'd stick with finding either another descendant from Bajazzo or a Hannoverian (from the G-line). Mainly because they suit 'my' mind and riding style, which is less intense and high energy and more 'the turtle wins the race' and 'let's be friends'.

Edit: I'd never rule a Dutch bred horse out though. I think they are amazing athletes and are striking to look at (most of the time).

hahahahaha! This is funny. I was like: "hmm... I don't know much about KWPN but those sure don't sound like Dutch names to me!"

Lottie's a Dutch Warmblood :)

She's a hot headed mare with bucketloads of talent, a natural jump, a supple back and impressive paces, and I'm pretty sure she knows it. She's clever and always has to be focused on a task or she'll mess about. She tolerates my fussing and riding even though I know she could be doing so much better with a different rider. I'm just lucky to be able to know her really!

Not true at all. Dutch is a registery. If you take a look at the bloodlines in that registery you will find Holsteiner, Hannovarian, Dutch harness horse, Tb, etc...

Swedish horses are more a breed but do allow other breeds in - like Tb.

So there are difficult horse from both registery's, just like Trakhener, Holsteiner, etc. So if you want to purchase a European warmblood he best thing to do it research it's bloodlines and look for those (like Flemmingh) who are amateur friendly, and not those known to be more difficult (like Jazz, Ferro). As a breeder you would probably try to find a blend of the two bloodlines that has a good temperment but the bigger movement associated with Jazz (although Flemmingh does thorw VERY good movement).

I happen to own both a SWB and a Dutch WB - both have very good temperments.

Well said. Even some quarterhorse lines are not so amateur friendly, chuckle. Certainly there are a number of Stallion lines that are marketedly producing good gaits, talent and rideability, in all the registries. Love the Flemmingh that I have seen. Think the Idocus progeny are doing very well in NA as well, and temperment hasn't seemed to be an issue. But, we forget, all the time, (guilty too) that the dam has a great deal to do with it all. Not only her bloodlines, but her actual mothering talents. We imprint foals, and so does mom!! Some of the nicest rideability/work ethic I am receiving, is from a trakehner stallion out of trakehner mares. Interesting. Our deceased KWPN stallion didn't physically mark his fillies, but his sons. The thing he passed on the best to all was a great work ethic, gaits and rideability. Hard to measure till they are doing work. But to me, the very best things to pass on.

I have a half Dutch Warmlood sired by Opus (Idocus X J. Adelian)

We have a circa 1996 Idocus stallion, the O year!!! Absolutely love Opus and Olivier. Colourwise...ours is black/bay. But I think there are some physical similiarities between the 3, and all seem to produce athletic good minded kids. Enjoy your ride!

I newly own a Dutch Warmblood and I would love to know his line but I don't know how to find them. I haven't gotten his papers yet

I have a 1/2 KWPN 1/2 TB gelding by Odin and I'm gaga over him. Got on him to ride after being told that he was ridden regularly before I got him and even tho I found him to not know anything he was not mean or dangerous...(later discovered he has not been ridden in 3 years and he's only 7) We backed up to ground work and basically I am retraining him he's doing very well. I'd say he has a strong personality, a real sense of fairness but he is pretty Lazy if you allow him to be LOL which I hear is pretty typical of KWPN horses. He is big 17hh nicely built and a great mover. I adore him :)