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    04-21-2013, 09:46 PM
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Weanling
APHA Stallion for stud, Chief

Chief is a 2004 APHA stallion. He's black and white tobiano. He's homozygus black and white and tobiano. His second foal hits the ground within a month.
He's started on poles and barrels, only three months of training on both. He's up for live covering and shipped semen(:











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    04-21-2013, 09:55 PM
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Third time ever on the pattern.
     
    04-24-2013, 02:28 PM
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Trained
Homozygous for what exactly? OWLs status? What genetic testing had been done?

In all honesty if you're serious get some professional or extremely well done conformation photos, post a stud fee and what not. Right now you AF smacks of something that could be found in Craigslist and not like an ad that is taken seriously.
     
    04-24-2013, 02:55 PM
  #4
Weanling
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
Homozygous for what exactly? OWLs status? What genetic testing had been done?

In all honesty if you're serious get some professional or extremely well done conformation photos, post a stud fee and what not. Right now you AF smacks of something that could be found in Craigslist and not like an ad that is taken seriously.
I normally get messages for people who are serious about him. We havent made an ad out exactly because we don't have the photography to do so or the patience for a photographer.Hes homozygus black and white and homozygus tobiano pattern. His stud fee isnt actually up, because its debatable. Weve just recently decided to put him up. For his first breedig we are taking offers on what the owelner of a mare will pay considering he doesnt have any earnings from large rodeos. He's inly recently started running. For my first time puttig him up, my job is just to show what and who he is. I message, text, or call details on him. Hence the reason some of his information is missing.
     
    04-24-2013, 03:19 PM
  #5
CCH
Weanling
Have you had him tested for the At form of agouti? His sire is bay and his dam's sire is clearly brown, so it is possible he is brown too. I'm no bay/black/brown expert, but to me he looks brown/ heavy faded black in his registration photo. A horse can be homozygous for black and still carry At.

Also, I note that he has not gone through the stallion listing process or DNA typing with APHA. If you plan on registering current/future foals with APHA, I would suggest doing that. APHA also has a nice online website where you can keep up with breeding reports too.
     
    04-24-2013, 03:31 PM
  #6
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by CCH    
Also, I note that he has not gone through the stallion listing process or DNA typing with APHA. If you plan on registering current/future foals with APHA, I would suggest doing that. APHA also has a nice online website where you can keep up with breeding reports too.
If you expect Paint folks, you need that stallion listing with the APHA. Without it, you can't get the breeding certificate without which someone can't register the foal (without a tremendous hassle).
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    04-24-2013, 08:28 PM
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Weanling
He's currently in the process of actually going through. The previous owner before us didn't care to re-register him, and he also didn't sign his papers. We are fighting with APHA and the previous owner to try and speed the process of his papers. His test is actually in APHA, but he hasn't been listed on their site. As for testing, Yes everything has been tested EXCEPT his gene for dilute.
His father is actually I believe a sorrel paint? I haven't looked in a while. Both father and grandfather were run over a cliff. So I don't believe there are many pictures available. I can call and check record. He for sure is a black and white stallion. As for expecting anyone to breed, he is open to any breed, currently going to breed a few jutlands I believe next spring when they come of age.
     
    04-24-2013, 08:34 PM
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Green Broke
What is a "jutland" ? Do you mean shetland as in pony ? If he is not registered NOW, and you breed, his foals may not be able to be registered .. you should not list him as a registered horse until you have his papers in hand..
You can take photos with any camera, just take a ton of them .
     
    04-24-2013, 08:36 PM
  #9
Green Broke
I see the spots , peacock spots. So that is why she is saying homozygous but the horse needs tested if she is going to stand it at stud
     
    04-24-2013, 08:38 PM
  #10
Green Broke
So you arent trying to add anything to the paint breed?...since youll breed him to just anything. What you are saying is you have a stallion you find pretty but hasnt been proven and doesnt have all the proper registry paperwork done but you just want him to make babies?
Im sorry but that is imo what is wrong in the industry right now. Too many bybs willing to breed an unproven stallion to anything he can cover...
Before you go posting him for stud you may want to all of his information(genes,dilutions,pedigree,complete sire and dam info,training and performance records,terms,conformation photos) instead of "heres a pretty horse with a pair, breed to him"...
Just my .02
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