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post #11 of 24 Old 02-28-2013, 02:32 PM
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I thought you'd appreciate this Drafts! I live right down the road from where Nanning was, small world. I have this hanging in my cube at work. It's a dream of mine as well to have one of his babies somehow.

He's beautiful! I remember when he was little, definitley maturing and growing up. Can't wait to see a video either. Love him, just stunning.
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post #12 of 24 Old 03-01-2013, 01:20 PM Thread Starter
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Conformation wise he's pretty butt high at the moment but I'll post the best picture of him I have that show something. He's a bit stretched out in it and really fuzzy. You can see how butt high he is in the second one and he likes to stand a bit behind himself if he's not being judged. The recent winter schooling show we went to there was a judge that frequently is hired at local Friesian events and said for a yearling he was incredibly well built and she absolutely loved his movement. She told me with a little practice and the right training he should place top when he goes to a Kuering when he's 3, if I choose to take him. Also in these pictures he also looks ridiculously behind the knee. He's not. I brought it up with the vet when he was adjusted and she pointed out he was leaning back on himself and being lazy. She squared him for me and pointed it out. That's a relief.

I'll see about loading up a video. I think I got one yesterday but I'm not sure, I'll have to check and see if I caught his extended trot at all.

It's been a hectic few days. Not a good hectic either. Sick doggy and last night, well I was put in a situation with a now former friend that turned out to be pretty loud and confrontational over me protecting my puppy from serious injury. I'm still recovering from the adrenaline aspect of it so I think today will be a pajama day to get rid of this headache.
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post #13 of 24 Old 05-03-2013, 01:11 AM Thread Starter
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Sorry for being so distant! I was going to start a new thread but I didn't want to clog up the new new ones.
Ok so a lot has been going on with Lestat. His first dose of big boy hormones has kicked in but not in a negative way. He knows he's supposed to feel a certain way sometimes but he also understands through experience that if he attempts to act on these feelings mom gets mad. Not so much angry mad more just like "put it away *flick*" mad.

He's a very smart boy and caught on very fast that talking to the girls wasn't ok when he's being worked, he has to pay attention to mom or whoever else is handling him and ignore the other horses. He also learned that trying to run away on the lunge line means more work and harder lessons so he did a 180 and is working perfectly with his transitions. When I say he's done then he's done and he knows not to try and decide that for me.

I've ground driven him a lot and worked on turning all sorts of directions, walking over trot poles, stopping, backing straight and at all other angles, and trotting all over the place as well. He has a great stop on him and he's very underneath himself. I've lined him to the mounting block and leaned over him, wagged my legs around, patted his sides while I'm flopped over and he doesn't seem to have any issue at all. He's also been worked with mares riding around him, next to him, cutting him off, sitting on his butt and he's been a perfect boy. As soon as it looks like his attention is going elsewhere he is corrected and has come to learn quickly that other horses don't exist when he's being worked.

He has a case of the baby warts that are worrying me a bit. He has a show coming up in June and I don't think the bigger one will be gone by then. I'm not sure what to do about it and I was told to leave them alone because they'll go away on their own. I hope they hurry.

I do have questions though. I was told different things by many different people about riding a 2 year old. I've heard that just sitting on them at the end of a working session is really good for them. I've heard wait until they're 15hh or more to get on them (he's 15.2), and I've also heard don't touch him until he's 3. So what is it? When getting these answers my main question was can I sit on him. I don't want to work him in his transitions but I would like to sit on him and maybe have a friend lead me around for a couple minutes after he gets worked. The sooner I can get him used to someone on his back the easier the rest of his training will be but I also don't want to hurt him or damage his growth at all.

Suggestions? Would sitting be ok? Walking maybe? 5 minutes?
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post #14 of 24 Old 05-03-2013, 01:23 AM
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I wouldn't rush it.
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post #15 of 24 Old 05-03-2013, 02:50 AM
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He is a sturdy fella, and is growing in to such a handsome man!

But I wouldn't ride just yet; just a matter of opinion.

Enjoy him on the ground at the moment, and take your time. I live on the Dutch boarder, and between his breed and the Spanish imports we constantly get around here, a lot are moved too soon to fast.

And it later years, it REALLY shows. Arthritic joints, stiffness etc.

Go with your gut instinct, you know the horse. Don't let people rush you in to things because they think they know.

I personally would wait till three minimum to start light activities.
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post #16 of 24 Old 05-03-2013, 06:49 AM
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Lovely horse, but still looking very immature. I wouldn't sit on him. It will do him no harm doing more groundwork now and waiting 'till he is three and a lot more developed to even ride him for five minutes.
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post #17 of 24 Old 05-03-2013, 12:47 PM
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re: warts. My colt had warts around his nose and eyes. The day we gelded him, the vet cut most of them off, and the rest cleared up. He had heard somewhere that cutting them would clear them up. None came back either.
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post #18 of 24 Old 05-04-2013, 02:07 PM Thread Starter
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Sounds good with the riding. I am thinking of setting up obstacles in the arena and doing a bunch of fun games that I can do through ground driving. He's also going to start learning fun que stuff like holding things and Spanish walk and what not. Things that'll make him think. I was also going to take him swimming and get him used to going to the lake.
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I like to leave riding horses of any breed until they are about 4... And have never noticed that they are any harder to start for it, often there is more ability to focus and training seems to fly along. They are more physically capable of finding balance under a rider at 4, and less likely to go through a really large growth spurt mid training.

Up until 4ish the horse will do in hand work, long lining, and sometimes learning to work in harness so that riding just becomes the next thing we do.

That's just what I do, for what it's worth.
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post #20 of 24 Old 05-06-2013, 11:48 PM Thread Starter
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The main thing I keep hearing is wait until the end of the year to get on and walk him but for now work with putting weight on his back and taking it off again. He'll stand quietly while I slump over him and he doesn't try to rebalance himself out afterwards. I do it gently of course and only take my feet of the block for about a minute if that. Today when I leaned over him he signed and started to fall asleep. We do this after each ground work session. As I said before I'm working on building an obstacle course to ground drive him around with and on both the lunge and on the driving lines I've been working on his transitions up and down and back and forth as well as back up, side pass. We play games and stretch and park and then gently step out. I'm thinking of taking him to a skill clinic in about a month that will help with the spanish walk, pivots, spots and blocks for point work and standing and a bunch of other things that I could add to our list of ground work.

I have no problem waiting, there's a ton of stuff I can do before getting on him. I've also decided to hold off breeding him until he's started under saddle and had a year on him so that puts him at 4.

I had an friend come over today that hasn't seen him since he was 9 months old and she looked at him with her eyes almost falling out of her head. I had her pull mane hairs for me and when I tried I just felt like I was slowly ripping them. Anyway, she's used to working with 2 year olds that are all over the place, not focused, pissants.... you get the picture. She stepped back when I walked him down to the barn and she commented on how calm he was, very focused on me and she told me I've done a great job so far. When she got on the step stool to pull the hairs she told me he had a beautiful back with great muscling. From the side he looks way more narrow than he is from an aerial view. Not overweight but perfect for his age and work load. I'm very pleased with how he's turning out.

One of my friends who's riding and showing Caleigh my Clydesdale this year told me she has a friend with a gorgeous Friesian mare that lives about 30 minutes from us. She wanted to breed the mare to Nanning (Lestats sire) but Nanning passed away right before her mare was to come into heat. KK had mentioned I had a Nanning colt and the lady just melted. She said she'd love to breed to him if I approved and
let her know my terms with a contract. I told her I would love to meet her mare and when he's trained to breed I would let her know. Through images her mare looks amazing but I'd like to meet her in person as well.

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