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post #11 of 22 Old 06-02-2013, 06:08 PM Thread Starter
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I think it is like when people say an old horse is thin because they're old. They don't have to be. Same with a mare that's nursing.

I asked someone that I know well "If they were a complete strangers horses, and you drove by and saw that, what would you think?" They admitted that because they've known the owner for nearly 15 years, that they just assume that it's all okay, if had been a strangers place they would probably be horrified.

All the pictures that everyone put, thanks, it puts in perspective that yes it's okay to lose conditioning, to become a little ribby, but with a good diet that doesn't have to become a big problem. That there is no good reason for the mares to be in that condition, it sucks that nothing will be done, nothing can be done, but the mares should be grazing soon hopefully it will help some too.
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post #12 of 22 Old 06-02-2013, 08:37 PM
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The mare should be at a perfect weight all throughout pregnancy and while the foal is nursing. If she is not, she is not getting enough food.

Here is my mare just prior to foaling...324 Days here, she foaled at 337 Days.


Here she is with her 5 day old foal. She looks wonderful here.


Chilly with 3 week old Wrecker.


Chilly with 5 week old Wrecker.


And Chilly back in work with 7 week old Wrecker. (This is taken at a show)


Wrecker is about 8 weeks in this photo. And Chilly is actually OVER-weight. Not being fed hay right now, just 24/7 pasture, salt/mineral blocks and fresh water.


My mare has always been an easy keeper but with her pregnancy, I watched her weight extremely close. Once a broodmare goes downhill, it can be hard to get them back on track. It's a slippery slope and I didn't want to go down that road with my horse's nutrition.

There is NO excuse for skinny horses. Including "hard-keepers" and "lactating mares" It's just not an excuse. It's sheer laziness/lack of proper care on behalf of the owner if they have a horse that's a 1 or a 2 on the scale, let another poor broodmares.
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post #13 of 22 Old 06-04-2013, 10:44 AM
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Does your city or state have animal control that is not associated with the local SPCA? Or will someone in another district or jurisdiction take action? Someone/group not associated with the owner?

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The RCMP actually does the animal control but most cases are past to the SPCA unless its proven case which legal action is going to be taken. This isn't abuse it is neglect, which is hard to prove because of the other horses on the property which are generally healthy weight or heavier side. If water and food is on site, there is no case.
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I think there is still a case although it would be harder to prove. It's selective neglect and abuse. Neglect is abuse IMO. If some of the horses are looking terrible then there is the possibility for all of them later on down the road depending upon how/what they do for the owner to be neglected. I'd contact a local animal control officer and ask to lay out your findings for him. Provide pictures if you can. See what can or can't be done. Sounds like the owner needs to have some horses taken away so proper care can be given to the remainder.

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Try googling animal control laws and what constitutes abuse in your area...if you can back up your case with actual laws, it'll strengthen it.

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Sorry I was wrong it isn't the SPCA or RCMP that does animal for horses, only small animals, in 2010 it changed that the department of agriculture looks into horses along with livestock. I emailed them ask what are the conditions that warrant a visit to check on the horses.

I don't know in the US or other parts of Canada, but here there is no one else that is legally allow to take the animals.

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Glad to hear this! Keep us posted on what they say!

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Well I don't know if it's good or bad news. No the conditions are not bad enough for them to come check on the horses. As long as they are a dry place to lay down, hay, water and a place out of the elements she's doing nothing wrong.

Even after pointing out that they had foals at side, the woman insisted that is was fine that they were underweight, that losing a lot of weight was normal with broodmares.

They do have on record the complaint but unless someone else complains or something more serious happens (gets sick and not treated, dies, etc) they are not going to do anything.
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Siiigh - unbeliveable.
Sounds like the SPCA in Canada is just as useless as it is here.
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