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    01-17-2014, 11:50 PM
  #11
Trained
The stallion leases I've been around have been mainly because the owner needed a break from expenses. They lease the stallion to a mare owner, either free lease and get a portion of any breedings sold or for a fee and the lessee stands the stallion and keeps the breeding fees. I've not heard of anyone leasing a stallion for 2 mares, and as a stallion owner, I would not lease my stallion out for only 2 mares. Are you planning on breeding him to some outside mares while he's there?
     
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    01-18-2014, 07:52 AM
  #12
Started
How is this stallion behavior wise? What about your mares? Are you able to handle and house a stallion? Is your insurance aware? I agree with the others it sounds like a lot of trouble for two mares. Than again there are multiple ways to do a task so its not my place to judge. I would have all those terms set out in your agreement and go from there.
     
    01-18-2014, 09:25 AM
  #13
Yearling
The stud is very calm, and will be pastured with our mares. We know the people who we are leasing him from well, and have bought two horses from them in the past. This stallion is very well socialized. We have a very nice facility, and just spent all summer putting up a new fence structure. Hot wire, double fencing between herds, etc. The stud was pastured with one of our mares and gets along great with her. We often graze our other horses on our land across the road, so some of the time no horses would be around except the mares. The stallion owner only has two mares, as well, and is getting out of breeding for the most part. I know it doesnt seem entirely worth it to some just for two mares, but with the owner getting out of breeding and us getting into it, it workrd out well. I have experience handling stallions and stud colts if all shapes and sizes, just yet to have one myself. But with just two breeding mares, it doesnt seem worth it to have a stallion just yet. I also own two mares with his bloodline that I wish to breed someday, but this is an opportunity to introduce even more of his bloodline. Thank you for replying, I very much appreciate it.
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    01-18-2014, 09:29 AM
  #14
Green Broke
When I had a couple of mares that I wanted bred-I had an ok from a stallion owner on 1, but the owner didn't want to breed my other mare, so I went looking & ended up buying my own stallion-(also a stallion pen, etc) I kept him intact for a few years, finished his training, put him in some breed shows & bred a few outside mares. After I had the foals I wanted, he was gelded & became a super nice trail horse-even as a stud, I ponied his sons off him-yes, he was that nice!

So, my advice have a good contract & if only breeding, keep him for as short a time as possible. And do check out laws about stallions-in CA-it's not "legal" to let anyone under the age of 16 observe hand-breeding-out in a pasture is ok. And if the law has changed-please don't bash me-just saying how it was back in the '80's. (In-hand breeding was considered sex-show). So, my breeding was done in a far back corner or after dark.
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    01-18-2014, 11:26 AM
  #15
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Cacowgirl    
When I had a couple of mares that I wanted bred-I had an ok from a stallion owner on 1, but the owner didn't want to breed my other mare, so I went looking & ended up buying my own stallion-(also a stallion pen, etc) I kept him intact for a few years, finished his training, put him in some breed shows & bred a few outside mares. After I had the foals I wanted, he was gelded & became a super nice trail horse-even as a stud, I ponied his sons off him-yes, he was that nice!

So, my advice have a good contract & if only breeding, keep him for as short a time as possible. And do check out laws about stallions-in CA-it's not "legal" to let anyone under the age of 16 observe hand-breeding-out in a pasture is ok. And if the law has changed-please don't bash me-just saying how it was back in the '80's. (In-hand breeding was considered sex-show). So, my breeding was done in a far back corner or after dark.
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    01-18-2014, 01:05 PM
  #16
Green Broke
If you are looking for the experience of owning a stallion, and don't mind the added cost (versus artificial insemination) then I don't see why not. You already have experience handling them, so there's no issue there. And I can't imagine the price would be all that much to have a mare taken care of at a breeding facility.

Just out of curiosity, what breed of stally are you looking at? ^^
     
    01-19-2014, 01:00 PM
  #17
Started
Really, with the advancement of ultrasound, you can pinpoint ovulation, take the mare to the stallion, breed, go home. The vet can even synchronize the 2 mares fairly close, and you can do both at the same time! Even gentle stallions require more digilence in care, especilly if you don't own him!!

I considered leasing the sire of my 4 fillies, because the owner moved and now has no access to AI facilities.

Nancy
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    01-19-2014, 01:02 PM
  #18
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Yeah, when every other youtube horse video seems to be horsey porn!!!

Nancy
     
    01-19-2014, 03:35 PM
  #19
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by greentree    
Yeah, when every other youtube horse video seems to be horsey porn!!!

Nancy

That's exactly what I was thinking of... Didn't want to say it! What is up with that...
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    01-19-2014, 04:51 PM
  #20
Green Broke
I have heard of leasing broodmares before, and I have heard of people sending their stallion to big name farms to stand at stud, but I have never heard of leasing a stallion. I think it would be much more cost effective to just breed to the stallion and leave it at that.
     

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