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post #111 of 590 Old 12-13-2012, 11:23 PM
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ESTOPA!! *facepalm* Why did I not put this all together days ago *sighs*

I LOVE HER. She had the most haunting eyes. I can't even explain it.
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Man he is gorgeous!! Makes me wish I had an Arab mare to breed him to! My little Arab paint is nowhere near quality to breed! So I shall admire him/drool from a distance!
Thank you Tazzie!! We shall probably have some candidates for you soon..

Just kidding..sorta..

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ESTOPA!! *facepalm* Why did I not put this all together days ago *sighs*

I LOVE HER. She had the most haunting eyes. I can't even explain it.
BBB!! You're familiar with Estopa???? Is she not one of the most incredible mares to grace this plane??
What exquisite beauty and essence that mare had. I get the eyes.. it's the Spanish thing, but 100-fold with her..
Now you know why I chose Dream.

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Yup ... I got it! ... Okay so I was a little slow on the uptake Had to dust the mites out of my brain.

I knew I recognized El Shaklan's name but I couldn't quite get why. And I hadn't had time to get real nebby yet LOL. I can remember my Dad and a friend of his talking about Estopa or it could have been Bint Estopa but either way, once you said the name stuff started falling into place. She was fabulous. Talk about a horse with an "aura" about her.

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Yup ... I got it! ... Okay so I was a little slow on the uptake Had to dust the mites out of my brain.

I knew I recognized El Shaklan's name but I could quite get why. And I hadn't had time to get real nebby yet LOL. I can remember my Dad and a friend of his talking about Estopa or it could have been Bint Estopa but either way, once you said the name stuff started falling into place. She was fabulous. Talk about a horse with an "aura" about her.
I am in heaven-- lol!! I so love having someone to talk to who knows these lines!! Do you know Bint Estopa was the result of El Shaklan being re-bred to his Dam-- with stellar results??
The "aura" was regaled wherever she went. What royalty!

Since the purchase of Echo Empress, who is over half Spanish, and BA Chevelle who also has Spanish blood, I spent quite a bit of time researching these lines. Even my Solei has a bit of Spanish. Dream is just a great addition to the equation..
Guess we'll see what comes of it..

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I am in heaven-- lol!! I so love having someone to talk to who knows these lines!! Do you know Bint Estopa was the result of El Shaklan being re-bred to his Dam-- with stellar results??
The "aura" was regaled wherever she went. What royalty!
I remembered some real close inbreeding there. But I wasn't sure which ones they were. Didn't they try that a couple of times and do pretty well? I want to say this was about the time when I was trying out Quarter Horses and fell out of the Arab loop except for what my Dad still talked about. Around mid 70's or so? Our last Arabian passed in 1979 and from that point on, my knowledge takes a pretty significant dip.

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Since the purchase of Echo Empress, who is over half Spanish, and BA Chevelle who also has Spanish blood, I spent quite a bit of time researching these lines. Even my Solei has a bit of Spanish. Dream is just a great addition to the equation..
Guess we'll see what comes of it..
I'm sure it will turn out fantastic. Who knows! Maybe you'll have your own Estopa someday. Now that would be something else!
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I remembered some real close inbreeding there. But I wasn't sure which ones they were. Didn't they try that a couple of times and do pretty well? I want to say this was about the time when I was trying out Quarter Horses and fell out of the Arab loop except for what my Dad still talked about. Around mid 70's or so? Our last Arabian passed in 1979 and from that point on, my knowledge takes a pretty significant dip.

I'm sure it will turn out fantastic. Who knows! Maybe you'll have your own Estopa someday. Now that would be something else!
She was re-bred to her son again and delivered a fine colt:

Later that year *Estopa delivered a colt very much in the mold of his sister, *Bint Estopa. He was also a pretty, almost feminine colt, and he reminded me of his sire as a newborn. We named him Estopa Son. Our bloodlines had been doing extremely well for years and had achieved a long list of championships at all the major national and international shows across Europe.

Her next foal was by the magnificent An Malik, a progenitor of Echo Empress.

I learned long ago if you follow your bliss, dreams follow you. Joseph Campbell taught me that.
Perhaps it will be so, but no matter if it isn't; I'm loving what I do and the horses who fill my life.

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Haha ... not bad for an old woman's brain! Those were some fantastic horses back then. Some nice ones now too but ... maybe it's because I'm old or something but very few now have the presence of the old ones.

It's good to remember though. And the lines you've picked to carry on with are great choices!
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BBB- if you have heard through the years about Estopa-- this mare may have lineage you might also recognize:

Echo Empress Arabian

More than half Spanish- she outproduces herself.

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Haha ... not bad for an old woman's brain! Those were some fantastic horses back then. Some nice ones now too but ... maybe it's because I'm old or something but very few now have the presence of the old ones.

It's good to remember though. And the lines you've picked to carry on with are great choices!
You are NOT old! Few DO have the presence because they're all about whipping horses to perform as caricatures in MR. I'm not into the flavor of the month. I want versatile, sane horses with substance. My young colt Psynny is the MOST laid back colt I've ever seen. Mostly in a coma. Seriously. He, and it is a cliche, was "born broke." I can do anything with him. He spooks at nothing. For my first foal, I could not be luckier. But when this boy trots, IT turns on. The camera just loves him. And he can move..
But I attribute that to well-researched Crabbet-based breeding. Lady Blunt knew what she was doing. Her choices were sound and well-thought out. It shows, even years later.
Today-- the Arab looks nuts because big money made them that way.
Not MY horse.
Thanks for the kind words. Coming from someone who's been there and knows the history of these lines, it's a great compliment. It takes a while, but it's all falling into place.
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