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Obsidian Arabian's New Stallion

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#1 · (Edited)
This is an unofficial announcement presenting an absolutely exquisite stallion acquired from one of the best international breeders of quality Arabians.

We are proud to welcome Obsidian Dream S, who has been my lovely dark secret for a while now, and what a Dream he is!!

One of his sisters has sold to Poland and another sister has sold to France.

Pictured as a yearling:



A pedigree to die for:
And coming from prepotent, sought after bloodlines..

All Breed Pedigree Query

15.1 as a 2 year old.







A more formal announcement and others related to this one will come later. I couldn't torture you all any longer..lol
 
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#87 · (Edited by Moderator)
Yes, Dream is an honest 15.1 at 2 years. He's gained over an inch just in the time I've had him. His parents are also big and substantive, but it appears his sire throws larger than himself. If he continues to grow as expected, I may have to discuss with Denise Gainey the process of having him Warmblood Inspected once he matures.
 
#98 · (Edited by Moderator)
A couple of genuine questions, I have to admit that being a bigger taller person I like a taller horse, but at the same time I am mindful that the Arab is a more compact breed, so does it worry you that he is so tall already?

Isn't it overwhelming having all that testosterone on the place? I know the colts are young yet, but you have Dream and your chestnut stallion, it was bad enough here with one stud and then the young colts coming along. People say mares are hard to live with, but it isn't as hard on the nerves as the boys that's for sure.
 
#104 ·
Here's a great video of El Shaklan. Dream carries 2 lines to this immortal stallion. El Shaklan is known for his prepotency, which certainly is evident when one knows the Spanish traits that were selectively bred for over the years. This lineage has indelibly left its mark.



*El Shaklan has become a household name in the world of the Arabian horse. His influence spans the globe. His name is found in pedigrees of horses in every country that Arabians are bred in the world and in show winners at every show in the world. He has not only influenced horses through his genotype it is through his phenotype that we can see *El Shaklan, 35 years after his birth, in horses everywhere. He created a distinct look that is unmistakably “El Shaklan.” He and his dam *Estopa are the cornerstone of the Om El Arab breeding program and many successful breeding programs around the world.

*El Shaklan :: Om El Arab International

Estopa:
*Estopa :: Om El Arab International
 
#106 ·
I love him, fabulous refined head but with no loss to good build - deep chested and good limbs, well proportioned to his body - no matchstick legs, also a good length of back - extreme short backed arabians dont make for the best rides
Ridden show Arabians in the UK have got bigger over the years but its not been at a loss to type and substance, if anything they are a much sturdier animal now and more like the old Crabbett horses. The small ones will carry a man but when the riders legs are hanging too much below the girth it doesnt look good in the showring especially and that can count a lot in the overall appearance so makes them more of a choice for any height rider
 
#108 · (Edited)
Nice summation jaydee; I agree.

Great to have input from someone who has experienced the evolution of the Arabian, especially in other countries, as the US and Europe tend to have different ideals and goals. I am overjoyed that the breed is coming back to the solid Crabbet types, as that's what's in my barn, and what I like personally.
My elder colt, Gold N Psynn-psyation is high Crabbet- and is huge at 7 months. His Dam is 15.2. I expect he'll be at least 15.3 if he continues as he has been and grows into his stilt-like legs. He was never specifically bred for size, but I am very happy he has it. The Crabbet/CMK blood was foremost in his breeding. His sire, Golden Ecstasy, is 89.97% CMK.
 
#109 · (Edited)
Here's an excerpt about Estopa from the founder of Om El Arab and her observations of the prepotency of this line, which may very well have come from the Dam, who was larger than normal, and exotically beautiful:

The result of that breeding arrived in August of 1975. *Estopa delivered her first colt. His face was delicate and fine, as pretty as Estawa’s, like a filly’s face. I was in awe of this colt; he was the most beautiful colt I had ever seen. *Estopa had created another masterpiece. I named this colt *El Shaklan, taking the “E” from * Estopa and the “Shak” from Shaker El Masri. What had become apparent was *Estopa’s ability to out-produce herself. Her combination with Shaker El Masri produced sheer magic. *Estopa was a big mare for her time and stood 154 cm (15-1+). She was a little long in her back. *Estopa’s face, like the Mona Lisa, was arresting, enchanting and seductive. Her eyes were large and round and soft black. Her character was a contradiction of terms. She could have, at times, the nature of a nurturing babysitter or the fierce demeanor of a warrior. *Estopa was very people oriented and loved being the center of attention. Shaker El Masri was much smaller, finer boned, and somewhat standoffish. The combination of these two different individuals produced offspring that were taller than both, more exotic than either, with shorter backs and longer hips. It is my belief that *Estopa was the dominant parent, with Shaker El Masri adding refinement and his dose of fiery character. Together, *Estopa and Shaker El Masri produced a new dimension of Arabian horse for Europe, a dimension that had previously only danced on the pages of books of artists or were frozen in bronzed animation on coffee tables.

I look forward to seeing what these Spanish lines will add to my Spanish mares.. ;)
 
#110 ·
Completely off topic, but I just watched this amazing movie on people who adopt Mustangs to give them the chance for a good home, highlighting their challenges and obstacles in 100 days time. Quite inspirational and a bit of a tearjerker in the end.
If anyone else would like to watch, here's the info:

Wild Horse Wild Ride || Home

Just an FYI for those interested.
 
#111 ·
ESTOPA!! *facepalm* Why did I not put this all together days ago *sighs*

I LOVE HER. She had the most haunting eyes. I can't even explain it.
 
#113 ·
BBB!! You're familiar with Estopa???? Is she not one of the most incredible mares to grace this plane??
What exquisite beauty and essence that mare had. I get the eyes.. it's the Spanish thing, but 100-fold with her..
Now you know why I chose Dream.
 
#114 · (Edited)
Yup ... I got it! ... Okay so I was a little slow on the uptake :oops: Had to dust the mites out of my brain.

I knew I recognized El Shaklan's name but I couldn't quite get why. And I hadn't had time to get real nebby yet LOL. I can remember my Dad and a friend of his talking about Estopa or it could have been Bint Estopa but either way, once you said the name stuff started falling into place. She was fabulous. Talk about a horse with an "aura" about her.
 
#115 ·
Yup ... I got it! ... Okay so I was a little slow on the uptake :oops: Had to dust the mites out of my brain.

I knew I recognized El Shaklan's name but I could quite get why. And I hadn't had time to get real nebby yet LOL. I can remember my Dad and a friend of his talking about Estopa or it could have been Bint Estopa but either way, once you said the name stuff started falling into place. She was fabulous. Talk about a horse with an "aura" about her.
I am in heaven-- lol!! I so love having someone to talk to who knows these lines!! Do you know Bint Estopa was the result of El Shaklan being re-bred to his Dam-- with stellar results??
The "aura" was regaled wherever she went. What royalty!

Since the purchase of Echo Empress, who is over half Spanish, and BA Chevelle who also has Spanish blood, I spent quite a bit of time researching these lines. Even my Solei has a bit of Spanish. Dream is just a great addition to the equation..
Guess we'll see what comes of it.. :wink:
 
#118 ·
Haha ... not bad for an old woman's brain! Those were some fantastic horses back then. Some nice ones now too but ... maybe it's because I'm old or something but very few now have the presence of the old ones.

It's good to remember though. And the lines you've picked to carry on with are great choices!
 
#120 · (Edited)
You are NOT old! Few DO have the presence because they're all about whipping horses to perform as caricatures in MR. I'm not into the flavor of the month. I want versatile, sane horses with substance. My young colt Psynny is the MOST laid back colt I've ever seen. Mostly in a coma. Seriously. He, and it is a cliche, was "born broke." I can do anything with him. He spooks at nothing. For my first foal, I could not be luckier. But when this boy trots, IT turns on. The camera just loves him. And he can move..
But I attribute that to well-researched Crabbet-based breeding. Lady Blunt knew what she was doing. Her choices were sound and well-thought out. It shows, even years later.
Today-- the Arab looks nuts because big money made them that way.
Not MY horse.
Thanks for the kind words. Coming from someone who's been there and knows the history of these lines, it's a great compliment. It takes a while, but it's all falling into place.
 
#122 ·
BBB- if you have heard through the years about Estopa-- this mare may have lineage you might also recognize:

Echo Empress Arabian

More than half Spanish- she outproduces herself.
Yes ma'am! There are a few there that pop out at me. Aladdinn, Galeon, Gammar and Congo for sure. I *think* Gaamara also, although I seem to want to spell that different so I might be remembering her wrong. Other than her most of the mare's I don't recognize. I'm guessing because back then it was all about the stallion and forgetting that there was another side to the equation involved in all this!
 
#123 ·
How do you find the time? What with 9+ horses and all that training, research, breeding, dreaming?
That's what I was thinking. When I had 6 horses, I didn't have time to relax! All that grooming, stall cleaning, vet appointments, farrier appointments, and tack cleaning! Yikes
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#124 · (Edited)
How do you find the time? What with 9+ horses and all that training, research, breeding, dreaming?
I know you meant the movie- but occasional bad weather days, I do something different.
But-- I guess when you believe in something badly enough, you find the time. I am fortunate in that I set my own schedule as to when to see my patients or when I attend to my Supervisory duties. I work as much or a little as I like depending on requirements with my horses. That helps quite a bit. I make sure I spend all my spare time with my herd. It's the most satisfying, relaxing thing in the world. :wink:
 
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