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    01-09-2014, 01:53 PM
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Yearling
Stallion owners, a question for you?

Would you willingly stud your stallion if you knew the mare owner had previously neglected a horse?
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    01-09-2014, 02:26 PM
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Personally I wouldn't. Especially if it were common knowledge. I'd also contact the local animal control, or humane society, and see if there's anything saying that said person shouldn't be owning a horse. To me, part of being a responsible breeder is screening both the horses AND the people who want to breed to my stallion. Obviously there is always the possibility of breeding and everything looking fine, and down the road it ending up not being okay, but if you KNOW, then I wouldn't.
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    01-09-2014, 02:55 PM
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Trained
Absolutely not.

References, references, references. Standards. Standards. Standards. You MUST have standards when breeding to outside mares, the people have the be reliable and take care of their animals...and their horses should compliment your stallion, and be utd on vaccinations/cultures and not just another 'average' horse producing an 'average' foal.
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    01-09-2014, 03:19 PM
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Yearling
Alright, second question.

If you refused to breed your stallion to said mare, but noticed that the mare owner had found another stallion to breed to whose owner did not know about said neglect, would you tell the stallion owner?
     
    01-09-2014, 06:46 PM
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It's none of your business.
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    01-09-2014, 07:28 PM
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Weanling
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Originally Posted by Left Hand Percherons    
It's none of your business.
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Agreed. Good for you, OP, for caring about the standard of care that mares bred to your stud and subsequently his offspring. However, unfortunately not everyone else has those same standards and that is their choice. Now if another stallion owner were to ASK why you had turned a breeding to that mare down (because they were told by the mare's owner, for example) then it would be up to you whether or not to say anything. If your opinion is not asked for in this instance I would not give it as it could come back to bite you and your stud in the butt.

If that mare were emaciated, on her last legs, had horrid conformation, no training and a nasty temperament the owner would still be able to find someone somewhere with a stud that would breed her. Sadly some people care about the money and not much else, if at all.
     
    01-09-2014, 07:47 PM
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I agree with 2bigreds, and left hand, while you can do what you can to look out for your own interests when someone comes to you, once they find someone else, unless that person specifically asks why you refused the person, then you keep your mouth shut. Eventually she's going to find someone else that you DON'T know, or know about, and is going to get her horse bred if she's determined. All you are going to do is stir up trouble, and unfortunately people will start to think of you as a gossip, and that's just going to hurt you and your business. I know you want to look out for any potential baby that happens, and want to tell people not to help her out by letting her use their stud, but like 2bigreds said, it will come back to bite you in the butt.
     
    01-09-2014, 08:02 PM
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Trained
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Originally Posted by Ladybug2001    
Would you willingly stud your stallion if you knew the mare owner had previously neglected a horse?
Not even maybe.
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    01-09-2014, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladybug2001    
Alright, second question.

If you refused to breed your stallion to said mare, but noticed that the mare owner had found another stallion to breed to whose owner did not know about said neglect, would you tell the stallion owner?
Nope. If it doesn't involve my horse or if I'm not asked directly, then it's none of my business.
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    01-09-2014, 08:20 PM
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Yearling
See, I had the opportunity to tell the stud owner but I kept shut. Of course I'm worried about the mare and potential foal, thus why I decided to not breed to her mare.

It would have been a great opportunity to show what he can produce, but I have morals. I just hope the person comes to her senses and realizes she can not afford the horses she has, let alone a pregnant mare and future foal...

Since it was brought up, can you have a certain contract made up saying you have the right to refuse service? I know you can require current coggins, up to date on vaccinations but can you require references and maybe right to check on mare and foal? :/ Or does that fall over the line of your "business" as the stud owner?
     

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