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        12-28-2012, 10:39 AM
      #31
    Trained
    As a veterinarian, I have euthanized horses as well as other animals to relieve their suffering and pain.

    It is incorrect to claim that it is painful. The barbiturate in the drug anesthetizes the animal. The potassium stops the heart.

    Have you ever been anesthetized? Same difference, except they don't wake up. It is like turning out a light.
         
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        12-28-2012, 11:24 AM
      #32
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Celeste    
    As a veterinarian, I have euthanized horses as well as other animals to relieve their suffering and pain.

    It is incorrect to claim that it is painful. The barbiturate in the drug anesthetizes the animal. The potassium stops the heart.

    Have you ever been anesthetized? Same difference, except they don't wake up. It is like turning out a light.
    Thank you for reiterating this. Again, I feel that those who believe this causes pain either have seen it done incorrectly, or they do not understand the body's response to the process.
         
        12-28-2012, 07:57 PM
      #33
    Green Broke
    I stated I believed it was painful. I have had over the years, due to horses age , guts failing, old dying horses euthed. THe horse I saw in PAIN had been tranked, had the full kill dose. THis horse when it hit the ground, tried to rise, curled her legs up bought her head and neck and it was awful. The horses nostrils were flared , it Moaned , Now it was not like 5 or 10 minutes went by, it was probably within one or two minutes, but that horse was in pain . It still Haunts me. Maybe the VEt had done something wrong, but with the full dose that horse felt it. One VEt did not admin enuf on a huge draft, and that horse had to have a second full dose, and it did not show as much pain as the mare , but the facial expression on the Draft was awful also.
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        12-28-2012, 08:54 PM
      #34
    Trained
    That is not a typical euthanasia. Something went wrong. That is unfortunate.
         
        12-28-2012, 09:20 PM
      #35
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Celeste    
    That is not a typical euthanasia. Something went wrong. That is unfortunate.
    Yes, I agree. And personally, if this was the same vet who did both of these euthanasias I would not ask them to care for my animals again.

    I interned at a rehab center this last summer. Sadly, a lot of animals have to be euthed because we just can't do anything for them. Every single one I witnessed was painless and humane. The animal - whether it be a fox or a tiny sparrow - was sedated and put under, and then delivered an injection into their heart. The last thing any of them remembered was peacefully falling asleep, and that is how it should be every single time any animal is ever put to sleep.
         
        01-06-2013, 06:51 PM
      #36
    Foal
    Hon, I appreciate your concern for the welfare of the horses. Some posters are incorrect in stating the majority of posters on this forum are pro slaughter. I do not recall filling out a survey question when I registered asking my stand on equine slaughter. I am not pro slaughter but am in favor of humane euthanisia of stupid owners.

    If you would like to make a difference, volunteer at a local rescue and read, read, read about the issues. We all make a difference in this world. We just need to decide if it will be good or bad.
    Be well
         
        01-06-2013, 06:56 PM
      #37
    Foal
    Had same thing happened to a beloved mare. She dropped and I will never forget her scream. Seems last time I recall, Doc, I didn't scream in pain before I went out during surgery.
         
        01-06-2013, 07:06 PM
      #38
    Foal
    Unfortunate is having your mare's ashes returned to you in a Tupperware container. Unfortunate is paying a vet $18,000 for colic surgery and they don't bother to use abdominal mesh. Unfortunate isstanding by when a vet promises your mare will go peacefully and she screams and thrashes in pain while the tech runs to the truck for more meds. What is the most unfortunate is that there are people practicing vet medicine who should not have made it out of vet school. If I sound angry, you're right but I also know if a vet isn't from Hagger or Roode they're not touching my animals.
         
        01-06-2013, 08:18 PM
      #39
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by 66Domino    
    Unfortunate is having your mare's ashes returned to you in a Tupperware container. Unfortunate is paying a vet $18,000 for colic surgery and they don't bother to use abdominal mesh. Unfortunate isstanding by when a vet promises your mare will go peacefully and she screams and thrashes in pain while the tech runs to the truck for more meds. What is the most unfortunate is that there are people practicing vet medicine who should not have made it out of vet school. If I sound angry, you're right but I also know if a vet isn't from Hagger or Roode they're not touching my animals.
    I'm so very sorry to hear that. That is so sad if I own a horse I hope I don't have to go through something like that but either way your words are kind and I understand
         
        01-06-2013, 09:44 PM
      #40
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 66Domino    
    Unfortunate is having your mare's ashes returned to you in a Tupperware container. Unfortunate is paying a vet $18,000 for colic surgery and they don't bother to use abdominal mesh. Unfortunate isstanding by when a vet promises your mare will go peacefully and she screams and thrashes in pain while the tech runs to the truck for more meds. What is the most unfortunate is that there are people practicing vet medicine who should not have made it out of vet school. If I sound angry, you're right but I also know if a vet isn't from Hagger or Roode they're not touching my animals.
    I am so sorry for your loss. Vets are only human just like the rest of us. And as such, they make mistakes. The most horrific animal death I have ever witnessed was a botched castration. Perfectly routine, textbook procedure. Vet was fresh out of school, came highly recommended by the regular vet who couldn't do the procedure that day. He missed an enlarged inguinal ring and the animal was eviscerated. He didn't believe me when I called to say the poor creature's guts were out. I waited an hour for him to come back. Another hour for the vet to clean the intestines and stuff them back in. He ended up dying in my arms... with only two stitches to go. I will never, ever forget walking into the barn that day and seeing him stagger to his feet and trying to come to me with his guts hanging out. It still haunts me in my dreams and was nearly two years ago... Do I blame the vet? Not really. Yes, it was entirely preventable, but we all make mistakes. I bet you that vet will NEVER make that mistake again. It is a shame that an innocent creature I loved had to suffer so horrifically, but his ultimate sacrifice made the world better for other creatures.........
         

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