Beware - Page 4 - The Horse Forum

 51Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #31 of 46 Old 12-28-2012, 10:39 AM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Georgia USA
Posts: 6,513
• Horses: 1
As a veterinarian, I have euthanized horses as well as other animals to relieve their suffering and pain.

It is incorrect to claim that it is painful. The barbiturate in the drug anesthetizes the animal. The potassium stops the heart.

Have you ever been anesthetized? Same difference, except they don't wake up. It is like turning out a light.

Celeste
Celeste is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #32 of 46 Old 12-28-2012, 11:24 AM
Foal
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 39
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Celeste View Post
As a veterinarian, I have euthanized horses as well as other animals to relieve their suffering and pain.

It is incorrect to claim that it is painful. The barbiturate in the drug anesthetizes the animal. The potassium stops the heart.

Have you ever been anesthetized? Same difference, except they don't wake up. It is like turning out a light.
Thank you for reiterating this. Again, I feel that those who believe this causes pain either have seen it done incorrectly, or they do not understand the body's response to the process.
prettydecoy is offline  
post #33 of 46 Old 12-28-2012, 07:57 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: california
Posts: 5,285
• Horses: 0
I stated I believed it was painful. I have had over the years, due to horses age , guts failing, old dying horses euthed. THe horse I saw in PAIN had been tranked, had the full kill dose. THis horse when it hit the ground, tried to rise, curled her legs up bought her head and neck and it was awful. The horses nostrils were flared , it Moaned , Now it was not like 5 or 10 minutes went by, it was probably within one or two minutes, but that horse was in pain . It still Haunts me. Maybe the VEt had done something wrong, but with the full dose that horse felt it. One VEt did not admin enuf on a huge draft, and that horse had to have a second full dose, and it did not show as much pain as the mare , but the facial expression on the Draft was awful also.
66Domino likes this.
stevenson is offline  
post #34 of 46 Old 12-28-2012, 08:54 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Georgia USA
Posts: 6,513
• Horses: 1
That is not a typical euthanasia. Something went wrong. That is unfortunate.

Celeste
Celeste is offline  
post #35 of 46 Old 12-28-2012, 09:20 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,438
• Horses: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Celeste View Post
That is not a typical euthanasia. Something went wrong. That is unfortunate.
Yes, I agree. And personally, if this was the same vet who did both of these euthanasias I would not ask them to care for my animals again.

I interned at a rehab center this last summer. Sadly, a lot of animals have to be euthed because we just can't do anything for them. Every single one I witnessed was painless and humane. The animal - whether it be a fox or a tiny sparrow - was sedated and put under, and then delivered an injection into their heart. The last thing any of them remembered was peacefully falling asleep, and that is how it should be every single time any animal is ever put to sleep.
Shoebox is offline  
post #36 of 46 Old 01-06-2013, 06:51 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 198
• Horses: 0
Hon, I appreciate your concern for the welfare of the horses. Some posters are incorrect in stating the majority of posters on this forum are pro slaughter. I do not recall filling out a survey question when I registered asking my stand on equine slaughter. I am not pro slaughter but am in favor of humane euthanisia of stupid owners.

If you would like to make a difference, volunteer at a local rescue and read, read, read about the issues. We all make a difference in this world. We just need to decide if it will be good or bad.
Be well
66Domino is offline  
post #37 of 46 Old 01-06-2013, 06:56 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 198
• Horses: 0
Had same thing happened to a beloved mare. She dropped and I will never forget her scream. Seems last time I recall, Doc, I didn't scream in pain before I went out during surgery.
66Domino is offline  
post #38 of 46 Old 01-06-2013, 07:06 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 198
• Horses: 0
Unfortunate is having your mare's ashes returned to you in a Tupperware container. Unfortunate is paying a vet $18,000 for colic surgery and they don't bother to use abdominal mesh. Unfortunate isstanding by when a vet promises your mare will go peacefully and she screams and thrashes in pain while the tech runs to the truck for more meds. What is the most unfortunate is that there are people practicing vet medicine who should not have made it out of vet school. If I sound angry, you're right but I also know if a vet isn't from Hagger or Roode they're not touching my animals.

Last edited by 66Domino; 01-06-2013 at 07:12 PM.
66Domino is offline  
post #39 of 46 Old 01-06-2013, 08:18 PM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nothing important ;)
Posts: 43
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by 66Domino View Post
Unfortunate is having your mare's ashes returned to you in a Tupperware container. Unfortunate is paying a vet $18,000 for colic surgery and they don't bother to use abdominal mesh. Unfortunate isstanding by when a vet promises your mare will go peacefully and she screams and thrashes in pain while the tech runs to the truck for more meds. What is the most unfortunate is that there are people practicing vet medicine who should not have made it out of vet school. If I sound angry, you're right but I also know if a vet isn't from Hagger or Roode they're not touching my animals.
I'm so very sorry to hear that. That is so sad if I own a horse I hope I don't have to go through something like that but either way your words are kind and I understand
Shirekeldeo7 is offline  
post #40 of 46 Old 01-06-2013, 09:44 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 39
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by 66Domino View Post
Unfortunate is having your mare's ashes returned to you in a Tupperware container. Unfortunate is paying a vet $18,000 for colic surgery and they don't bother to use abdominal mesh. Unfortunate isstanding by when a vet promises your mare will go peacefully and she screams and thrashes in pain while the tech runs to the truck for more meds. What is the most unfortunate is that there are people practicing vet medicine who should not have made it out of vet school. If I sound angry, you're right but I also know if a vet isn't from Hagger or Roode they're not touching my animals.
I am so sorry for your loss. Vets are only human just like the rest of us. And as such, they make mistakes. The most horrific animal death I have ever witnessed was a botched castration. Perfectly routine, textbook procedure. Vet was fresh out of school, came highly recommended by the regular vet who couldn't do the procedure that day. He missed an enlarged inguinal ring and the animal was eviscerated. He didn't believe me when I called to say the poor creature's guts were out. I waited an hour for him to come back. Another hour for the vet to clean the intestines and stuff them back in. He ended up dying in my arms... with only two stitches to go. I will never, ever forget walking into the barn that day and seeing him stagger to his feet and trying to come to me with his guts hanging out. It still haunts me in my dreams and was nearly two years ago... Do I blame the vet? Not really. Yes, it was entirely preventable, but we all make mistakes. I bet you that vet will NEVER make that mistake again. It is a shame that an innocent creature I loved had to suffer so horrifically, but his ultimate sacrifice made the world better for other creatures.........

Last edited by prettydecoy; 01-06-2013 at 09:46 PM.
prettydecoy is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Beware Horseychick94 Horse Tack and Equipment 2 09-02-2010 08:24 PM
Beware Canola Oil! Northern Horse Health 24 06-16-2010 02:09 AM
Buyer Beware! dressagexlee Horse Videos 10 03-01-2010 08:07 PM
Beware of tackoutlet.com ridesapaintedpony Horse Tack and Equipment 5 11-12-2009 05:27 PM
Beware of Best Buy appylover31803 General Off Topic Discussion 13 06-20-2008 02:59 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome