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post #1 of 6 Old 01-04-2017, 11:00 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Gelding Takota stolen in Maine

This was a trade theft.

I offered to trade my 19 year old gelding for a 5 year old mini mare. My horse was in 100 percent great health, super manners, no bite or kick and wonderful with kids. NOT a beginner horse, she was told this. He was out of work for a while and the other trader was told Takota would need to be worked. She claimed to be a horse expert and said she would work with him and give him a forever home.

I was told the mini horse I was getting (bought from pics only because I stupidly trusted this woman) was 5 yrs old, and great with kids. I was told she didn't bite or kick and was being sold because her kids lost interest.

I traded my horse with a first right of buy back contract that is signed by the other trader.

Soooo, here are the lies.

First, the mini horse was NOT child safe. This horse was sold just one month before to this woman as NOT CHILD SAFE!!!. The horse is not 5 but 9 years old, and....she is pregnant. I was told the mini was vet checked, she was not, I was told she didn't kick....the mini almost kicked my son in the face, and I was covered in bruises from this little mini.

The mini was previously left for the first 8 years of her life untouched in a field basically wild. She is only trained to be haltered and walked, but still considered unsafe for kids until she has more training. I was lied to about all of this, I only found out by contacting the previous owner.

Then on top of it all this miserable liar sold my horse within days of getting him. =( I contacted this woman and tried to trade back and be reasonable considering she had lied and misrepresented herself and horse but she instead called the cops on me for 'harassing' her. I even offered to pay for the trailering back.

This woman promised to give my gelding a retirement home, but lied. I called the police and they said take her to court, which I'm trying to do, but she's actually online on Facebook now looking for more FREE horses.

The girl she sold my horse to refuses to acknowledge my contract.

I've tried to warn people on Uncle Henry's but they block my ad, and Craigs list won't let me warn others either. Sickening that horse thieves can lie and steal and the police do NOTHING!!! except tell me to sue her.

I included a picture of my poor boy, sold and moved twice in such a short time, and I'm worried he'll be sold again. I also included a pic of the craigslist ad.

I've been shocked at the amount of lies Ive encountered in the horse sale world. Would never have believed it, but I guess I have this liar to thank for NEVER trusting anyone again.
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post #2 of 6 Old 01-05-2017, 12:02 AM
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This is horrible. Poor horse. Yes, take this person to court, but also would check with the police again about encouraging the new owner to return your gelding to you.

You should offer to pay a good bit of money to get him back. Remember you can sue the one you traded with for this money too.

The most important thing is to get Takota back before something worse happens to him.

This is why I rarely ever sell a horse. Get Takota home whatever it takes and never sell him again.
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post #3 of 6 Old 01-05-2017, 03:27 AM
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Well, the police are not going to do anything because there was an agreement between you and this lady. You gave her your horse in trade for her horse. It's as simple as that. I don't even think that this would be considered a stolen horse. I think this would be considered a deal gone bad.
I guess you can try to take her to court based upon her lies. You might be able to sue her for damages from neglecting to tell you that this horse is NOT safe around children and lied saying that it was. The court might determine that it was your responsibility to make sure the mare was safe before letting your child around it.

Buy back agreements are hardly worth the paper they are written on. It seems that in most cases when this is done, there is no law that backs it up or at least it's not taken seriously.

Probably the best option for you at this point is to hope that your gelding was sold to someone that cares for him and you can work with the mare so she is safe to be around kids eventually. I think that the person who has your gelding now may care for him because if they didn't and were just going to flip him, they would let you buy him back. If I were the one who bought him, I certainly would not just give him back, I would want the money back that I paid for him at least.

Sorry this happened with you and that you were lied to. You really do have to be careful with strangers and not believe everything they tell you at face value. Most people care about their animals and are quite honest, but there are some that just don't care about anything.

Good luck to you and the gelding is beautiful.

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post #4 of 6 Old 01-05-2017, 08:44 AM
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I'm sorry this happened to you. That's just devastating. :( I really hope, somehow, someway, you can get him back to you ASAP. If not, I really hope he's with someone that will take good care of him. That's really all we can hope for at this point, since they don't want to give him back. Ugh. Taking her to court sounds like a good idea, I'd definitely give it a try, as she did lie about the mare being safe around children. Plus she's pregnant?! :( People are heartless. It's scary how easily people can lie & get away with it. Definitely have to be super cautious with online sales, people aren't always who they say they are. Take it as a lesson learned, but I think it's good you are spreading awareness about this person so the next victim doesn't go through what you went through.

Good luck and let us know how it goes. I would also continue working with the mare.

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post #5 of 6 Old 01-05-2017, 12:47 PM
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Unfortunately, I agree with Lori. Buy back contracts are legally binding, due to lack of laws to ensure it, and so they're more a sign of good faith than anything else.

I'm not sure what your case would look like if you tried to sue based on this horse not actually being child friendly, "child friendly" isn't exactly quantifiable. But! You could definitely sue for false advertising, given that this horse was sold to you as five and healthy, but is actually nine and pregnant.
Of course, chatting with a lawyer will give you a better idea of what you have to work with.

It's absolutely true that the horse industry is full of less than honest sellers--unfortunately, that's true in almost all industries ): It's hard/impossible to know who will be honest, and who will not.
I'm so sorry you had this experience.

Your gelding is beautiful, and I wish you all the luck in getting him back <3
Best of luck and please keep us updated!

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post #6 of 6 Old 01-05-2017, 12:58 PM
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D: This is awful! I really hope it gets sorted out as best as possible. Whatever happens, I hope Takota is safe.

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