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    12-08-2011, 01:30 PM
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After working in law enforcement for many years, I have seen "slam dunk' cases get off. It's frustrating but it does happen. This whole case just makes me sick. I hope she doesn't upgrade to human victims.
     
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    12-08-2011, 01:34 PM
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All the facts and evidence will come out and I have faith a 12 person jury will render the proper verdict based on the law and the evidence presented.
Just like in the Casey Anthony or the OJ Simpson cases.
     
    12-08-2011, 01:36 PM
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Joe4d, The judge will ask for impact statements and such. They did when my granddaughter and her mother were killed. Of course, in that case the lady that killed them received $200 fine and 30 days in jail.... sad that our system works like it does sometimes. I believe OJ was guilty as well as Casey Antony. No jury would ever convince me otherwise. I watched all three of these trials in full. The one concerning my granddaughter and her mom, and television provided me with having courtroom cameras in the courtroom. I for one, as a member of the horse community want justice for Credit Card.
     
    12-08-2011, 01:36 PM
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But now that her mom is a part of the case involvement she now has a chance of pulling an insanity plea... based off of her family life structure...

After riding that article mls posted she has to many loop holes to get out of this I think personally. Hopefully not and is punished for what she witnessed. But its still a toss up
     
    12-08-2011, 01:37 PM
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Just like in the Casey Anthony or the OJ Simpson cases.

LOL you beat me to it :)
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    12-08-2011, 02:22 PM
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I have been to many parts of the world where a justice system just like many on this thread are advocating exists. People are dragged from there houses, stoned, macheted, hung and drug through the streets by seemingly decent people caught up in mob rule. Various Arabs believe without question what they see on TV. No trial, no nothing, an accusation and a stoning. Do you really want to live in a system like that ? Because that is exactly what I am seeing people here asking for. Everyone deserves the presumption of innocence until they have their day in court.
     
    12-08-2011, 02:47 PM
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I would like to add to joes comments - for those that are women here.in other parts of the country if you are female and your name even slightly slanders your name don't expect to be alive for much longer. This girl whether guilty or not just becuase of accustions would have been killed else where already by mobs. With our corrupt system its still way better than a mob scene taking action. Imo
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    12-08-2011, 02:51 PM
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I do not have to believe someone is always innocent till proven guilty. I saw my granddaughter's killer (yes it was an auto accident) Plead not guilty to the very end even through the trial. Watched the hell my son went through and knowing the entire time she was the reason my future dil and grandddaughter were no longer with us. There was no way she was anything but guilty.... accident recreation and eye witnesses all pointed to the fact she was guilty. It took her 5 years to admit her guilt. She never did in the court room. Did I know she was guilty from day one? I sure did... I read the accident report.... I am glad you are happy she received a fair trial under our system. I wish she would have plead guilty and saved us two years of torment.
     
    12-08-2011, 03:08 PM
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Thats a different situation. And a sad one and I am extremely sorry for your loss and the pain it caused you and your family. And yes in your case she was guilty and there were witnesses proving her guilty. That should have been enough to prove her guilty. On top of that the cars also helped as evidence

But in this case so far no one has any proof other than her words of witnessing the crime. They haven't disclosed any info about what tool was used to hurt the horse. Where it came from. Etc. they so far just from the bunch of articles I read today about it, which was like 10. And out of those 10 only one said she had mentioned that she wanted cc dead. But wouldnt disclose where the info came from.
At this point no one knows why she did it, there are two theories. I am in no way sticking up for her. I just don't like rushing into a judgement without the facts and right now there not all out to the public. And therefore can't judge whether she should be guilty. But if she is proved guilty I do hope she receives full punishment.
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    12-08-2011, 03:14 PM
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but if she is proved guilty I do hope she receives full punishment.
And that is my whole point... IF she is found guilty I hope she receives the maximum punishment provided by the law.

And thank you for your comments concerning my family. It is awfully hard to sit in a courtroom and listen to a defendant profess their innocence when all the facts presented show their guilt. And she was presumed by the jurors and the judge to be innocent till she was found guilty. To listen to her plead not guilty is a hell all it's own. I am assuming the Smith family feels the same way...
     

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