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post #21 of 92 Old 12-19-2010, 08:05 PM
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People don't change. The kind of people that live in the world today are the same as the people that lived at any other time. It's hard to say what motivates people to do the things that they do but don't for a minute believe that people in bygone eras were any better or worse than they are now.
Yeeeep! There's barbarians seen in every era of time.
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If you judge by our current societies standards then they may seem like barbarians but when you look at them in thier own context then many times it makes far more sense. If you came from a place where human life was cheap and often too short then you may look at the death of a horse in a different way.

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The problem with Kevin's suggestion is that it leaves a paper trail as well the killers needing a trailer and a vehicle to tow it. The way these horses are picked is more an act of convenience, no need to haul a horse anywhere, and no paperwork.

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It's perfectly legal to kill a horse you legally own. I doubt you could get 5 years in prison for improper disposal of a dead animal or selling horse meat. The truck and trailer is probably why they didn't go that route. Dummies!

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It's perfectly legal to kill a horse you legally own.
Yes, but buying several then having to deal with disposal of the remains is a problem for these guys. The killings that are making the news are probably being done by people trying to get in on the action and aren't organized at all. The real story is, from what I read a while ago, that there are "underground" slaughter houses where horses that are purchased from auctions - as you suggested - are processed for the black market.

There are far too many customers for horse meat then can be serviced by the few that make the news. This is an entire underground operation and the killings we hear about are just the tip of it.

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post #26 of 92 Old 12-20-2010, 03:24 PM
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Well I know you weren't talking about human meat. I just don't think they'd move to humans. I still think they are sick though. They could've atleast done what Kevin said and go buy a cheap horse and done that, with a clean kill and not torture it to get it's meat.
Katesrider011: That's something we can both agree on. They're still sick people either way we look at them. It would've been decent for them to get one of the cheap horses and kill it the clean way.


Kevinshorses: In my opinion the world has changed a little. To me there's more people who are like this than back in time. They might've done the same things that these people did but theres more of them. It's ok for you to believe that the people haven't changed one bit but I'm going to stick with what I believe. I think it's time to drop this and move on.
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I think this calls for a short rope and a tall tree.
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post #28 of 92 Old 12-22-2010, 01:24 AM
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First, I think this is a pretty just sentence. Five years is plenty for killing a few horses. I don't know if he will try the same thing on humans (I doubt it) but you can't punish someone for something they might do in the future.

Second, there would be NO black market for horse meat if you could buy it in a grocery store. There is a huge ethnic population in Florida and most of them are from places that have no tabu about eating horses. It would be an economic benefit for everyone involved if horses could be slaughtered and sold for human consumption.

Finally, I have to say what a bunch of idiots these guys are. If they had gone to a sale barn and bought a horse for $50 and taken it out to the everglades and slaughtered it nobody would have given a hoot. Instead the ignorant fools had to destroy someones property.
Interesting point of view, and I can see your point. But if you had a $50k horse would 5 yrs be enough? Does the value of the horse affect the sentence time in your mind?

I assume from what you are saying that it is no different from stealing your car, so you can make mods to your car if you feel so inclinded and it would be worth more, what about training time put in to a horse?
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I know people that have been in prison and 5 years is a lot of time to spend in prison. Stealing a persons horse is quite similar to stealing a car.

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post #30 of 92 Old 12-23-2010, 12:07 AM
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I know people that have been in prison and 5 years is a lot of time to spend in prison. Stealing a persons horse is quite similar to stealing a car.
Yes and no. A car is property, and a horse is the same, but there has to be something extra with a horse for the time and effort that goes into training it.
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