17.5-18 in Wintec 2000 dressage saddle (older) with a wide (non-adjustable) tree and flocked panels. 16 in. Flaps. It is good, used condition. Set of used synthetic stirrup leathers are included. Excellent schooling, training, pleasure and trail saddle. $175.00+shipping. Great deal for someone on a tight budget. If you are interested contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org for a link to pics.