Ok here are a couple pics. I showed you the measurement again for the inseam, the tape measure is stopped at 31" exactly. I also took a pic of the measurement from where the zipper starts at the outside of the hip, all the way to the bottom of the leg, which measured at 35" (so is that a 4" drop then, the difference between the inside and outside?) The chaps are dark black, the photo made them look slightly blue and faded. I did notice this morning in better light that there is a very small amount of wear on each of the inside legs where the calf is, definitely not visible when you wear them. No stains, tears, missing fringe... For $200 cheaper than they are on the hobby horse website, I think it's a pretty good deal :) Please let me know if you have any more questions!