I am on the hunt for an english saddle for my beginner student. Looking for a 17-17.5", medium-medium/wide tree. Would like for it to have knee rolls(thigh blocks would be an added bonus, but not required) with a semi-deep seat. Nothing black or very light. Havana brown or something similar preferred. Would like for it to come with leathers, irons not needed. Would like something like a used Collegiate, Circuit, Toulouse, HDR, Pessoa, etc. Price range is $500. Shorter, straighter flaps would be ideal, as she is not very tall and has short legs. Forward flaps just don't work, haha. Must be in good enough condition for small local schooling shows, so no junkers please. :) Thanks guys!