Time for me to let this one go. Those of you who know me, know I am a bit of a "tack *****" and tend to collect.....but with only one butt and only one horse, I just don't need this saddle. It has been my "go to" saddle for a while, and if it doesn't sell, it will continue to be. Really comfy, nice deep pocket. This is a great solid starter reiner. Excellent condition. Let me know if you want more pics-I have them. It is a 16, FQHB, but please see the pics to make sure of the measurement yourself. I would like $900 for it, buyer pays shipping.