I have a 17" Syd Hill for sale. It is all leather but in great shape...selling it cheap because I need it gone ASAP since I don't use it, and it needs the over girth replaced. It can easily be taken off and you can put a new one on in seconds (or if your girth is big enough and can reach the nearest hole, it may not even need to be replaced). They're fairly cheep if you look around online. Idk where all the pics went that I had on my computer, but here is an old thread I started that has photos. How much is my saddle worth?