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        05-05-2013, 08:14 PM
      #21
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Joe4d    
    Good grief I just read over the rules there, they did everything they could to say, "No Horses" without saying no horses. Id find somewhere less restrictive to ride like the VA highlands trail .
    ditto

    I can understand the no seed feed, but there are plenty of good places to ride that allow for grazing.
         
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        05-05-2013, 10:11 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
    Petersburg battlefield has taken the same type of attitude recently. Hqving hissy fits if a horse drinks out of a creek. And it ISNOT an erosion issue the creek in question has a gravel trail into and out of it. Supposedly they have a camera up and have written tickets in the parking lot. They get good pictures of me flipping them off when I cross the creek.
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        05-05-2013, 11:36 PM
      #23
    Yearling
    Joe...your face...er, finger... is probably on a poster on a wall somewhere.
    Wanted for crimes against the camera.
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        05-06-2013, 04:43 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    Yeh I figure I'll moon em next time.
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        05-06-2013, 04:53 PM
      #25
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joe4d    
    petersburg battlefield has taken the same type of attitude recently. Hqving hissy fits if a horse drinks out of a creek. And it ISNOT an erosion issue the creek in question has a gravel trail into and out of it. Supposedly they have a camera up and have written tickets in the parking lot. They get good pictures of me flipping them off when I cross the creek.
    Now Joe, you're probably not making any new friends that way.....

    We ride at the Chickamauga Battle Field on a somewhat frequent basis.....nothing like that going on yet....as a matter of fact, when the parking area was full, I stopped at the visitor center and ask what I should do....and they gave me permission to park in another area.

    I doubt they would have made the effort had I been rude to them.

    We rode in the Smokies last fall, but rode out of an established campground. Again, we rode up on several park rangers and all were quite nice to us.....no one checked our hay......

    Maybe the best thing to do would be make a phone call and talk to someone about what you're planning and see if they can find away to accommodate you.
         
        05-10-2013, 06:05 PM
      #26
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    Just made reservations for Cataloochee....nothing about hay.


    Know Before You Go
    Park

    Bear Habitat!!

    All food and items used to store or prepare food, including coolers, MUST be stored in the trunk or cab of your vehicle/s at all times when not in use.
    Dispose of garbage promptly in bear-proof dumpsters.
    This rule is strictly enforced!



    Firewood Quarantines are in effect!

    The possession of any firewood originating from any location for which a federal or state firewood quarantine is in effect is prohibited. The movement of firewood into the park from counties adjacent to the park for which a federal or state quarantine is in place is prohibited even if the quarantine allows for movement within the county.
    Firewood which bears a USDA certificate or which is purchased from a park concessionaire is allowed.
    The National Park Service STRONGLY discourages the movement of firewood from location to another.
    More details are available on the park website at Firewood Alert: Destructive Insects May Be Hitching A Ride! - Great Smoky Mountains National Park
    This rule is strictly enforced!



    Access to Cataloochee is via a narrow, winding, mountain road. A 3 mile stretch of gravel road contains many narrow, blind curves. Though many campsites will accommodate large rigs, motorhomes over 32' and trailers over 25' in length are not recommended due to the access road.
    There are no showers or electric, water or sewer hook-ups in the park.
    Quiet hours are in effect from 10 PM to 6 AM. Generator use is restricted to 8 AM to 8 PM.
    Fires are allowed in fire rings only.
    A reservation is required for all horse camps and you must have a horse to camp here. A maximum of 6 people and 4 horses may occupy a campsite. All horses must be accompanied by a negative Coggins test. The park stay limit is 14 consecutive days.
    Stalls are provided but may not be visible from your campsite. Check the site page for details. Horses may not be tied to trees.
    With the exception of Big Creek, horse camps do not have potable water.
    A Tennessee or North Carolina fishing license is required to fish in the park. Special regulations apply in the park.
    Pets are permitted but cannot be left unattended. All pets must be kept on a leash at all times. Pets are not allowed on trails.
    For additional park information call 865-436-1200 or visit Great Smoky Mountains National Park - Great Smoky Mountains National Park

    Yes, I have read and understood this important information.

         
        05-29-2013, 08:57 PM
      #27
    Weanling
    You see there? This is exactly why I hate it out here in the east! Too many people! Too many goofy rules! It's starting to get bad out west, but at least you still don't have to carry out your horse dung!

    Funny, in most areas of Arizona, on BLM and USFS land, camping is still unregulated. You can still graze your stock, have a campfire, ride where you want, BUT DO NOT STOP TO PICK A WILDFLOWER! That is a criminal offense!

    Things are getting crazy all over.

    I recently found a good book, written by an old rancher in Arizona, that talks about a lot of that stuff: Looking Through the Smoke, by Jinx Pyle.
         
        05-30-2013, 11:13 AM
      #28
    Yearling
    There is a place(Pine Martin Run)in the upper peninsula, MI where a few campsites make you pick your manure up. The sites are relatively close to the water which would be such a cool place to camp, but too many people did not spread their manure leaving it piled up so "they" say. How on earth do you pack that much manure back in your truck or trailer?.....You really can't, I believe it is a way to stop people permanently from camping there. I can understand certain restrictions but it is becoming ridiculous. I don't think trail riders are liked by the DNR....
         
        05-30-2013, 03:21 PM
      #29
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thenrie    
    You see there? This is exactly why I hate it out here in the east! Too many people! Too many goofy rules! It's starting to get bad out west, but at least you still don't have to carry out your horse dung!

    Funny, in most areas of Arizona, on BLM and USFS land, camping is still unregulated. You can still graze your stock, have a campfire, ride where you want, BUT DO NOT STOP TO PICK A WILDFLOWER! That is a criminal offense!

    Things are getting crazy all over.

    I recently found a good book, written by an old rancher in Arizona, that talks about a lot of that stuff: Looking Through the Smoke, by Jinx Pyle.
    Yeah, but in Southern AZ I use to always worry about finding water for my horse. I could get enough out of cactus for me if I had to, but not for my mount (and at over 8 lbs / gal there's no way to carry enough with you for the horse). Ft Huachuca was "20 miles from water and 2 feet from hell".

    In the east water is pretty easy to find. More often it's a pain having to ride to a bridge to get across, but the water is there. I remember crossing (ok, the horse stepped over it) the San Pedro River outside Sierra Vista that out east we'd call a creek . More grazing along the way too in the east. Most of the area I rode in AZ always had a bumber crop of rocks, gravel and sand so any weeds (if you find some) were quickly devoured.
    Lot of room to ride, but easy to end up a casualty if you're not very careful from the lack of water and the search for grass.
    I remember picking up a date once who told me I'd know her house because it was the only one with grass in the yard (and she was right).
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        05-30-2013, 04:24 PM
      #30
    Started
    I know a guy that lives in LasVegas and is a landscape designer. I remember all of his stories of the county paying people to replace the grass with more efficient landscaping to conserve water.
         

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