Thanks for the replies. I've been using SMBs on the trails for about 9 yrs now and I go through plenty of water and I've never had an issue with them rubbing or anything like some people are saying. My issue really is I got new hoof boots for him and they have gaitors (they wrap around his pasterns to help hold the boots on) and my old SMB IIs go too far down his pastern to use them with the gaitors. They go over the gaitors and that's not good. The new SMB Elites are cut higher and they don't go down past the fetlock and I was just wondering if anybody has used these type of boots with gaitors and if it worked, or if even they went down too far. Thanks for the replies though I do appreciate it!