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        11-21-2012, 11:15 AM
      #31
    Green Broke
    I do not think it is too much to ask of a horse, to stand nicely while the others gallop off, but it is certainly something that must be trained for the horse to understand.

    I can use my own horse as an example in this. He's 6 years old and I just purchased him in May. I've not gotten the opportunity to ride in a large group of people (most of the riding I do is solo) but based on his personality, he would be the type to "freak out" when the other horses go galloping off. I know at this point in time he is not ready to be made to stand still. I would have to do random exercises with him (circles, serpentines, flexing, etc) to keep his attention on me and not the other horses. But it is something to work toward and something he could eventually handle. But I know right now if he was in that situation, he's want to run with them.

    It's all about what you horse has been trained to do and their personality, and how you handle it.

    I do find it very rude and disrespectful that ALL the riders in your group would leave you behind, just because you aren't ready to gallop yet. Apparently they've forgotten how scary it can be to RUN on a horse when you aren't ready to do so. Shame on them for not finding a useable working situation for all of you.
         
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        11-21-2012, 01:59 PM
      #32
    Weanling
    Def not to much to ask, The horse should be listening to the rider not the other horses!
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        11-21-2012, 06:46 PM
      #33
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by bbsmfg3    
    I hope the barn owner is not your teacher. With a comment like that, she doesn't know how to train horses.
    She is, lol. The thing is, she does know a lot about horses, no doubt. But there are many things she has said that conflicts what I've read here. For example, there is a gaited horse there that paces. Everything I've read on this board has suggested that a pacing horse is undesirable. She was trying to get me to buy the horse and said that the pacing is okay. It's just how that horse does his gait. Off topic, but just an example of something that conflicts what I read on forums.
    I think from doing only ringwork and string trail rides she thinks this is how all horses are.

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    I do find it very rude and disrespectful that ALL the riders in your group would leave you behind, just because you aren't ready to gallop yet. Apparently they've forgotten how scary it can be to RUN on a horse when you aren't ready to do so. Shame on them for not finding a useable working situation for all of you
    I'm okay just doing the walk/trot thing with the other group for now. But I am friends with the advanced people and I'd love to ride with them. But I do not want to be the person that slows everyone down. Also, I'm afraid that if they did agree to not gallop in that one spot that we'd get out there and they'd be like, "Oh come on just do it!" and I'd be all

    I'm going to ask if maybe one person is willing to stay behind with me and we can trot and do a little bit of cantering to catch up. If we do the trot/canter thing versus an all out canter/gallop, I can get a better feel for it. Surely if one horse stays behind, both horses should be fine because they have a buddy. I hope.
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        11-21-2012, 07:25 PM
      #34
    Started
    Pssh. No way is that too much to ask!!

    My mare is fine with it, now she is anyway.

    Since you know where they're going to galloping off, just stay relaxed.

    What I did is I would ask my horse to stop before anyone went galloping away, if she couldn't stand we walked a circle, once I was sure she wouldn't take off, I just walked after everyone else.

    Just be wary that your horse might scoot forward or do something silly(:
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        11-21-2012, 09:05 PM
      #35
    Weanling
    No, its not asking to much. IMO you want your horse to look at you as his leader and not his herdmates (when you are around) and be perfectly content staying with you.
    *I'll add later, I saw something about this in a book and it explained it really well and I'll have to look it up
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        11-22-2012, 09:00 PM
      #36
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Heelsdown    
    I'm going to ask if maybe one person is willing to stay behind with me and we can trot and do a little bit of cantering to catch up. If we do the trot/canter thing versus an all out canter/gallop, I can get a better feel for it. Surely if one horse stays behind, both horses should be fine because they have a buddy. I hope.
    The other option is for YOU to go on ahead while the rest of the group waits, and when you have gotten to wherever they normally slow, you can wait for then to gallop to YOU. Much kinder to a beginner rider than expecting you to potentially deal with an upset horse that was left behind.
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        11-24-2012, 02:10 PM
      #37
    Weanling
    I take group lessons once or twice a week and in the lesson of up to 10 horses and we almost always split the group and half of them stand in the middle of the arena while the others canter to keep it safer . I've also done this with just myself and one other friend so I know it is not just because there were other horses standing in the middle with me in the group lessons . As long as your horse respects you as a leader you should have no problem (:
         
        11-24-2012, 05:11 PM
      #38
    Weanling
    I wouldn't have my horse any other way. I have a 3 year old and I was hand walking in the trails and another girl who leases my QH was riding along side us. On the trail she asked to canter and asked if my 3 year old would be ok. I said fine, prepared myself and off they went. 3 year old tried to take up a trot in hand and I brought him to a stop and then we walked off. No problem. Maybe at the point they canter off, stay on the ground holding him and turn and walk him back. You could see how he reacts with you on the ground, before you try it in saddle. Just a thought.
         
        11-26-2012, 09:40 PM
      #39
    Weanling
    Thank you all so much for the wonderful suggestions. It's such a relief to know that it is possible to stay behind. I guess I'll just have to wait until I have my own horse before that happens though.

    I think I am going to ask them to let me go on ahead. Good idea. And then I'll let them catch up to me.
         
        11-26-2012, 09:50 PM
      #40
    Foal
    I can ride my mare away from a group without a lot of fight, but if all the other horses take off at a run she gets wound. I think about any horse does at least a little. Fight or flight is what they do and if they see a bunch of other horses taking off they may think there is some sort of danger. To be honest if I were you I wouldn't try it unless you know from experience that the horse won't care, or at least take the horse in the opposite direction before they take off (if your horse is ok with that). It could be dangerous and scary to hold back a horse that's trying to take off after a herd. I never take off loping/galloping if I'm with a beginner rider.
         

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