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        03-28-2010, 11:03 PM
      #41
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    [QUOTE=MN Tigerstripes;588396
    Edit - Another good point RiosDad. When Soda's got his head jacked up to the sky and is tensed up his trot is terrible. I get him to relax and it's smooth as glass. [/QUOTE]

    When a horse lifts his head he hollows out his back making it very rigid.
    When the head goes down the back comes up , rounds and has spring to it. I spend long hours just jogging along through the bush trails and across country. Nothing calms a horse like a nice long trot. No hanging on the head, relax and just jog along. I use the word EASY if he speeds up, he drops right back to the relaxed jog with this verbal command. If he doesn't respond I would pull him back down with the reins.

    'I ride with almost no leg on a horse, nothing, just a relaxed posture but if the horse spooks my legs instantly clamp down hard. When I want to give suttle leg commands he instantly feels the shift, the clamping and reponds. If I don't get the response or it comes too slowly I will bump him with a spur. Hard if he really ignores the first cue.

    If your legs are banging around, moving back and forward against his barrel or clamped down how is he to distinguish a command from your attempt to maintain a seat????
         
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        03-29-2010, 09:02 AM
      #42
    Trained
    If you're a good rider with proper balance your legs aren't shifting wildly around on his barrel nor are they clamped down. My goal when riding bareback is to balance myself lightly upon my horse using the same muscles in my body that I do with a saddle. In neither case am I using my legs/calves to grip the horse tightly nor am I flopping widely around with my seat. I attempt (and succeed usually) to maintain a quiet steady seat and quiet legs. No, I'm not perfect, but everytime I ride (saddle or bare) I get better even more importantly every time I ride my horse he improves.

    Now that the ditches aren't slick with mud, we'll be doing many more long trots. Good cure for barn sourness too. For that I do use a saddle, no point in pretending my body is strong enough to maintain my posture etc for an even 20 minutes of regular trotting. Of course, at this point I'm pretty sure Soda will be huffing and puffing after 10 minutes.

    Edit - In my case Soda gets tense when we're on our way home. He likes to jack his head up to avoid the bit and hollows his back out in an attempt to get home ASAP. So **** uncomfortable. He has gotten a ton better in the last 6 rides or so (our first real ones of the season), but I've been waiting for those ditches to dry so I can really get him out and about, do some big long square/circle blocks.
         
        03-29-2010, 11:03 AM
      #43
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MN Tigerstripes    
    If you're a good rider with proper balance your legs aren't shifting wildly around on his barrel nor are they clamped down. My goal when riding bareback is to balance myself lightly upon my horse using the same muscles in my body that I do with a saddle. In neither case am I using my legs/calves to grip the horse tightly nor am I flopping widely around with my seat. I attempt (and succeed usually) to maintain a quiet steady seat and quiet legs. No, I'm not perfect, but everytime I ride (saddle or bare) I get better even more importantly every time I ride my horse he improves.

    Now that the ditches aren't slick with mud, we'll be doing many more long trots. Good cure for barn sourness too. For that I do use a saddle, no point in pretending my body is strong enough to maintain my posture etc for an even 20 minutes of regular trotting. Of course, at this point I'm pretty sure Soda will be huffing and puffing after 10 minutes.

    Edit - In my case Soda gets tense when we're on our way home. He likes to jack his head up to avoid the bit and hollows his back out in an attempt to get home ASAP. So **** uncomfortable. He has gotten a ton better in the last 6 rides or so (our first real ones of the season), but I've been waiting for those ditches to dry so I can really get him out and about, do some big long square/circle blocks.
    I use to love just jumping on my guy bareback with a halter and single lead line and lope around and around, big circles in the arena with the music cranked up and no one around and just escape to another place. My boy would just rock under me, a gentle swaying back and forth, no legs on him just a gentle rock BUT he was a highly trained horse ,one who sat on his hind end and was carefull not to use his front end. Every 5 or 10 minutes we would do a flying change to use the other lead.
    BUT he was a good cut above others
         
        03-29-2010, 11:34 AM
      #44
    Trained
    Sounds like you guys had a really good time.
         
        03-29-2010, 11:48 AM
      #45
    Weanling
    I ride bareback and in the saddle both constantly. It just depends on my mood. Any leg cues I use are from the knee down. When bare back I ride in my thighs. I also have the exact same seat bareback as I do in the saddle. I keep my legs still heels down or level and I don't bounce in the saddle or bareback.

    I expect my horse to be light on the reins...weather those reins are a leadrope attatched to a halter or the reins attatched to the bit on my bridle. I slight tap of the rein/rope to his neck and he turns. A simple WHOA and light pressure and he stops.

    I don't see bareback as hurting anything so long as its done right...
         
        03-29-2010, 12:21 PM
      #46
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Walkamile    
    I'm not going to get into the whole saddle/bareback debate, but want to get back the OP. My only concern in my case, and I use to ride bareback, is how comfortable is it for the horse?

    I have very prominent (sp?) seat bones and feel that must be uncomfortable for my horse. Anyone out there feel this way, or have any suggestions. As far as a bareback pad goes, that doesn't really pad enough over any length of time imo. Maybe I'm just "deformed"!

    Yes! I used to sit on my legs all the time. I have lost quite a bit of weight and can no longer enjoy my favorite sitting position due to my seat bones digging into my leg. I know it would be the same on my horse.

    Plus - a saddle evenly distributes your weight.
         
        03-29-2010, 01:31 PM
      #47
    Trained
    I am a balance failure, so bareback is a little awkward to me. But In the summer when I'm just riding around for some schooling or cardiac work I will go bareback or english just so I can get the muscle in my legs for when I'm doing western work. I find that in the winter when I don't ride bareback as much the muscles I develop in my legs goes away and its hard to get back into the routine. Use it or lose it I suppose.

    I strongly reccomend riding bareback. It can improve your riding in so many ways....just be sure not to go too far too fast. I've seen girls who've never ridden before get on and just lope off bareback, where others have had to work up to faster gaits because they aren't comfortable with their seat. This is just IME though :)

    Granted I adore my saddle if I'm doing rough terrain, I'll go bareback if the trail isn't so bad. It's not the horse I'm worried about....that'd be me. Like I said, I'm a failure at balance. And on certain horses the whithers are just dreadful to sit on. Jester's one of those horses, unfortunately, and dear god it's absolutely awful just sitting on him sometimes! Lol xD
         
        04-01-2010, 03:57 PM
      #48
    Yearling
    Abbie: Ya know, it's kinda funny because at my barn, I'm the only one who rides their horse bareback, and I always felt like an outcast because I always feel more comfortable, and more in control bareback than with a saddle and everyone else has the whole 9 yards on their horse lol. But to answer your question, yes, I feel the same way you do about bareback. I ride bareback 99.9% of the time. The only time I don't is if I go out on trails.
         
        04-01-2010, 04:17 PM
      #49
    Showing
    I love barebacking. It improves your leg grip by SO much more, especially if you have a horse who's always trying to gallop the other way and making daringly sharp turns without my permission trying to get me off so he can go back to the barn and see his mare *cough cough* Arthur *cough*
         
        04-01-2010, 04:23 PM
      #50
    Yearling
    Haha, yea that sucks when they do that, sometimes I'm amazed at how I still managed to stay on and not fall off. Another thing that helped me with their **** jolting spurts is doing sliding stops bareback. Kinda weird at first but ever since than I've seemed to just stay on through those sharp turns/jolts. Also, doing figure 8's at a nice trot helps a lot, and as I get more comfortable, I start making my circles smaller and smaller, until she's basically spinning.
         

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