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        04-10-2013, 08:32 AM
      #31
    Trained
    Someone threw a lighted cigarette butt out and started a pretty bad fire here.
         
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        04-10-2013, 12:19 PM
      #32
    Showing
    CustomCanines, it used to be like that for us too then the landowner began to squack to the Ministry as to why the onus was on us to have to patrol our land. The rules were changed. We now go with 4" red dots to denote private land and no trespassing. Everyone makes their own which can be on fence posts, trees, etc and no more of this every 50' b.s. The onus is on the public to figure out the property lines if not fenced. The dots help denote them. We can call either the conservation officer or the police. The police are better as altho it's a small fine, the violator/s are in the system. If there's a repeat somewhere else then there's a court appearance. You need to obtain a copy of the laws regarding protection of your land and tresspassing and who is supposed to enforce these laws. If they are inadequate, organize landowners thro emailings and get the laws updated.
         
        04-10-2013, 02:26 PM
      #33
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jolly Badger    
    Cigarette butts annoy me, too. Not even going to pretend to apologize to smokers about this one - it's your habit, you can keep doing it if you want - but figure out some way to dispose of the butts besides just dropping them.
    I bought my place about 15 years ago. The previous owner was a smoker, and smoked a brand that had little plastic inserts in the filters. I still dig up those insert things when I'm working in the garden...
         
        04-12-2013, 12:40 PM
      #34
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    CustomCanines, it used to be like that for us too then the landowner began to squack to the Ministry as to why the onus was on us to have to patrol our land. The rules were changed. We now go with 4" red dots to denote private land and no trespassing. Everyone makes their own which can be on fence posts, trees, etc and no more of this every 50' b.s. The onus is on the public to figure out the property lines if not fenced. The dots help denote them. We can call either the conservation officer or the police. The police are better as altho it's a small fine, the violator/s are in the system. If there's a repeat somewhere else then there's a court appearance. You need to obtain a copy of the laws regarding protection of your land and tresspassing and who is supposed to enforce these laws. If they are inadequate, organize landowners thro emailings and get the laws updated.
    I like that solution. Here in Oregon, if you don't actively discourage public use of your property a road or trail can become open to the public after a number years of use. Trying to close it back down again is almost impossible until the property is sold. At that point a new owner can shut it down again. But, if they don't jump all over shutting it down it will stay open to the public.

    Trail vandalism is a pet peeve of mine. I know longer ride in the area but I'm sure the fight is still on going. Used to ride where there was an off shoot trail to a small lake where we would water the horses. Another group didn't want horses riding to the lake so they would do their best using logs, rocks, brush and such to wipe out any sign of the trail start from the main trail. So we would spend time opening up the trail again every trip, I'm sure that battle still wages on today. To many people out there that think public lands are for their use alone and you can only use it if you are on their approved list.
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        04-13-2013, 01:05 PM
      #35
    Foal
    There is a beer cannery in Land Between The Lakes!

    We never saw so many beer cans ! There were literally hundreds of cans, nearly all Bud or Bud Light. It is hard to believe folks can stash full cans somewhere on their horse, but won't bring the empties back to camp. We thought at the time the Boy Scouts should do a clean up project; it would double as a fund raiser, too.
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        04-13-2013, 08:53 PM
      #36
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aztrailrider    
    We never saw so many beer cans ! There were literally hundreds of cans, nearly all Bud or Bud Light. It is hard to believe folks can stash full cans somewhere on their horse, but won't bring the empties back to camp. We thought at the time the Boy Scouts should do a clean up project; it would double as a fund raiser, too.
    That is a shame about Land Between the Lakes - it's a great trail system, and I just can't understand why people think it's okay to just drop their beer cans on the ground instead of putting them back in the saddle bags and throwing them away back at camp.

    There's just no excuse for that. I've actually heard some people try to justify it by saying "well, there aren't any garbage cans out there." Ummmm. . .that's part of being "out in nature." It's not a freakin' shopping mall or city park.

    That's why you carry it back to camp.

    An empty can weighs practically nothing. It's not taking up any more space empty than it was when it was full. As long as you don't crush it, it won't tear up the interior of your packs.

    Then again, I don't understand why people drink Bud or Bud light. Life is too short to drink cheap beer. . .
         
        04-14-2013, 12:08 AM
      #37
    Yearling
    When we first moved out to our acreage there were a few houses around us, that was 12yrs. Ago and since then there are at least over 20 just around in our small subdivision. My grandkids and I used to every spring go up the mile on one side picking up all the garbage and then back the other side......we would end up with 2 to 3 bags of garbage!! I don't get it, these people live out here but most of them quad, I see them all the time with beer cans and tossing them in the side of the bush.......I didn't do the road last year because the year before it didn't even last two days before someone threw another beer bottle on the side of the road ........
         
        04-14-2013, 01:44 AM
      #38
    Started
    ^^^^ Maybe redepositing the cans back into the yards of the offenders might get the point across...if you know who dropped them. Pigs!
         
        04-14-2013, 02:01 AM
      #39
    Yearling
    Just laziness as far as I am concerned.....pigs is right.....
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        04-14-2013, 10:04 AM
      #40
    Showing
    Beer cans have become the new sign of Spring. As the snow recedes on the back road, there's alread a flattened soda bottle laying along the side. It took considerable effort to not let it bother me. Ever notice how people can somehow pack full cans of beer to their destination but can't flatten the empties and take them out? After working in bars for a few years I learned there's a beer mentality and a whiskey mentality. Unfortunately, we are plagued with the beer drinkers, the good old boys.
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