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  • Can you direct rein with a straight bit?
  • Can you direct rein in a tom thumb bit

 
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    12-29-2009, 07:07 PM
  #11
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by letsgetserious    
If you are neck reining the tom thumb is fine, but I would suggest to switch to the curb if you direct rein.
Wrong.
     
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    12-29-2009, 10:26 PM
  #12
Yearling
I second that!

If you are doing a direct rein or Plow rein, you should use something like a snaffle. This is what you use on younger horses to teach them to give laterially. As they become broke, you can migrate to a curb bit for one handed control.

But there are lot of horses that spend entire career in a snaffle.

If you have a mild curb bit like Vidaloco posted. And if your horses responds well in that bit. There is nothing wrong with it. Understand it is a leveraged bit. Meaning what ever pressure you pull on the reins, it is multiplied several time by the leverage in the shanks and the horses feels much more pressure than you feel. Remember to be light with your hands and not balance your body by hanging on the reins.
     
    12-29-2009, 11:16 PM
  #13
Weanling
When I first bought my app he was in a curb and did alright. I then proceeded to move for a while and work at a camp, where mostly all that was used was snaffles and TT's. I came back and started using a regular loose ring snaffle. He responded well with it, and I tried a tom thumb ONCE. Never again, I actually had much LESS control with that TT. We're trying out a wire twist snaffle but that verdict is still out, and outside the scope of this thread...

I really believe, just my opinion, that it's not too terribly important which you use. As long as you're comfortable with it, and you get the proper responses from your horse, it will be just fine. Now, I do prefer to use a milder bit when possible. That's why my horse hasn't seen a curb in almost 2 years now...
     
    12-30-2009, 12:10 AM
  #14
Super Moderator
I am NOT a fan of jointed curb bits.
     
    12-30-2009, 12:46 AM
  #15
Foal
Obviously a snaffle would be preferred for direct reining what I MEANT was that out of the two it's better.

Jesus Christ.
     
    12-30-2009, 12:49 AM
  #16
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by letsgetserious    
Obviously a snaffle would be preferred for direct reining what I MEANT was that out of the two it's better.

Jesus Christ.
Still wrong try again.
     
    12-30-2009, 12:59 AM
  #17
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by letsgetserious    
If you are neck reining the tom thumb is fine, but I would suggest to switch to the curb if you direct rein.
Huh???? You can't direct rein in a curb bit, even with a Tom Thumb curb...in order to direct rein efficiently and effectively you have to ride in a bit that has individually moving rings...
     
    12-30-2009, 11:00 AM
  #18
Foal
This is what I've been taught, but I suppose that was in fact wrong so I am sorry. And you obviously can't direct rein with a tom thumb...but I've seen plenty of people direct rein perfectly fine with some other curbs..? Someone explain this please.

P.s. Kevins horses get over yourself.
     
    12-30-2009, 03:38 PM
  #19
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by letsgetserious    
This is what I've been taught, but I suppose that was in fact wrong so I am sorry. And you obviously can't direct rein with a tom thumb...but I've seen plenty of people direct rein perfectly fine with some other curbs..? Someone explain this please.

P.s. Kevins horses get over yourself.
Some curb bits (remember anything with shanks is considered a curb, regardless of the mouthpeice), do have loose shanks, or swivel type shanks, so you can do a certain amount of direct reining if needed with these kind of bits (wonder bit is a good example of what I'm talking about, even though it is a gag bit). However, fixed shanks (the curb and the tom thumb talked about in this thread) are not good for direct reining, as they will just pull on the opposite side of the face, more than actually give a good 'one rein' contact. Sure, people do direct rein in alot of bits that aren't designed for it, but that doesn't mean it's a 'good thing' Hope this helps...
     
    12-30-2009, 06:31 PM
  #20
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by letsgetserious    
This is what I've been taught, but I suppose that was in fact wrong so I am sorry. And you obviously can't direct rein with a tom thumb...but I've seen plenty of people direct rein perfectly fine with some other curbs..? Someone explain this please.

P.s. Kevins horses get over yourself.
In the future I will leave you in your snug cradle of ignorance. I said nothing rude I simply informed you that you were mistaken.
     

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