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post #1 of 38 Old 02-18-2014, 12:41 PM Thread Starter
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Bridle slips off face and horse takes off

I have been riding my horse in a side pull for 3 rides now (not very long but he is a fast to get it). He is much more responsive to my aids, its incredible. Yesterday however there was an incident.
I think the first and admittedly biggest problem I had was with the side pull, Ive only used it a few times with him out on trail solo, never with others. It doesn't have a throat latch, so it slipped off. Equipment malfunction!
The 2nd problem I had is that yesterday I went out riding with a buddy who is still novice on a novice horse, and she was letting her horse get away with some stuff that isn't too bad but I prefer not to have to deal with, such as stopping to eat, becoming nervous then stopping to eat, him stopping and wanting to turn back, and her not being able to control him when trotting on trail.
We were riding along and everything was fine. She said she had to make it back quick because of her son, and I wanted to go riding longer. This was the moment stuff got weird, because we should have parted ways, but decided to go the longer way but just make it a little quicker by trotting. I think her desire to get back made for her communication between her horse weaken.
Unfortunately we weren't able to trot because she kept saying her horse wanted to bolt and was out of control. I'm not sure she knows how to keep her horse in control, especially on days where she starts off the ride by saying "I think I want to sell my horse he is too much for me." My horse is well tempered and seasoned and usually puts up with it, but today I think having the new bridle on made him unsure and concerned about the dynamics of us all. The other rider wanted to go in the font on her horse saying he will be calmer because he will be more cautious, which I was fine with, however he also slowed down our pace a lot, and I was having to do circles to slow down every couple of minutes. By the time we were nearly home I had to do one more circle because we were coming up to a fence only 1 person can fit through. While in the circle and pulling back and to the side the bridle slipped off and my horse who was already fed up a bit and confused as to why it came off decided to bolt and start running home. He gets nervous when he thinks he did something really wrong, hes also not barn sour at all I think he was just freaked out and thought he was dying poor guy.
I tried to get under his neck with the rope to stop him with the reigns but he ducked down and I decided he was out of control wasn't going to listen to me and decided to get off! total unscheduled dismount. Then he started heading for the HWY, he made it across and over to a safer area, I am thankful about that, it was a busy holiday traffic situation!

I think I am just going to go out on trail by myself from now on, He's never done anything weird like this on trail solo, only if there's some other horse or person to get him worked up. Though I'd hate for this to happen when I was alone, I don't think it will. Its tough when your riding with an emotional rider, and you are just trying to enjoy your day.

I think I also learned some sort of lesson about using the right equipment, I definitely need to add a throat latch and double check the bridle to make sure everything else is where it should be. If there was a throat latch the bridle wouldn't have slipped off and control would have remained maintained.

The best part is I caught it all on video!!! :) I'll upload it soon since its undoubtedly entertaining to watch me tumble off and my horse continue to run away.
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post #2 of 38 Old 02-18-2014, 01:31 PM
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Just curious as to why all the circling instead a of slowing or stopping? Can't wait to see video
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I was constantly having to circle and stop because of the horse being in front being so slow. If I stop the other horse thinks its time to stop too and starts eating and his owner will look around and wonder why he stopped. This could go on every minute for the whole ride if I let it happen, yuck! Though I did utilize this action throughout the ride.
I was slowing him down for part of the ride mostly while we were in the lead to help out the other horse who was unsure and getting no security from the rider. Then on the way home having the other horse in front made me and him a little bothered, but helped the other rider who has less experience. He is leader of the other horse 80% of the time, never started to feel like he was needing to be slowed until the other horse was in front going slower, usually he is okay in back too but both him and I like the natural walk not a condensed or sped up version and if there's not enough room then my next best option is to circle to give space and let him continue moving.
Both horses are the same size, so if they are on the same page their gaits match up really well, being unsure was making the lead horse slow down.
I guess I just feel like I'm having to babysit them a lot of the time really and it compromises my riding, enjoyment, and now safety!
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I'm all for riding with experienced riders. I don't like to put mine or my horse safety at risk
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I am uploading the video right now. I watched it through again and can see where my horse catches up to her horse, and I slow him down. Then her horse stops to eat and my horse keeps walking past. Its pretty clear my horse want to be in front because he momentarily goes a little faster to the trot for a few steps to pass her stopped horse right before I circle him, just trying to be extra conscious of the other rider wanting the front. After that it happens!
Another thing that this has made me realize is that my horse doesn't kick her horse even though its nose is up my horses butt the whole time but her horse will kick at my horse and has kicked him in the past twice, more to be aware of on the trail.
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post #7 of 38 Old 02-18-2014, 03:34 PM
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Interesting...I have to say though, I've never had any sort of bridle slip, either with just a hanger, one ear, browband, or no throatlatch. I've also had to pull pretty hard with some horses. I'd check the fit of it as well, not just add a throatlatch.

But aside from that, while I refuse to tolerate a rider who doesn't want to learn or thinks they kmow more than they do, I love trail rides with inexperienced horses. My mare is great on the trail and will go front, middle, or back now because I've put her in those situations for training purposes. I want a horse that will do anything I ask with no problem and that's what my mare will be eventually. I do not follow close enough to be in hoof range, so my mare has never been kicked, but she's been kicked AT plenty of times. She also knows that if I tell her to leave it, she had better leave it or she won't be the only one kicking. At shows I've had riders ride right up on her bum, even letting their horse nip her butt! She's never kicked them, even though I was secretly hoping she would inside. She's never kicked at the youth riders who lose control of their ponies or forget ring etiquette either, even though we've accidently been kicked and elbowed.

What I'm trying to say is, take it as a training opportunity! Sure, he may not want to go slow, but what if for whatever reason he needs to trot slow at some point where you can't just start circling? He'll deal with it and not get bothered. I completely agree that riding with experienced riders/horses is much more relaxing and fun, but it doesn't have to be a complete pain riding with a pair not so experienced. Think of it in a positive light!
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post #8 of 38 Old 02-18-2014, 08:22 PM Thread Starter
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Here it is!
I rode my horse with the same bridle today and on the same trail with no problems at all, he was great. Also rode my friends horse there.
I also found out there was some property I was riding on that the other rider involved here said we had permission to ride on, but I found out today that isn't actually true and they never gave her or me permission to ride there. I think it was one of those I know someone who boards here even though I don't but that makes it ok for me to ride here kinda deal. *sigh*
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I hope I read your post correctly. If not, than disregard!
It sounds as if your horse does not want to slow a gait down. I believe a horse should be able to tolerate any pace within a gait you set. If it is a slow pace due to rider, horse, or a combination of the two, your horse should, without question, be able to handle a slower pace.
One never knows what will happen on the trail that will require your horse to have a s l o w pace. It usually involves injury to another rider or horse.
I couldn't tell much by the video, all I saw was sky, and someone's knee.

Looks like a nice area to have a good canter in, or a good long trot. I'm jealous as most of my trails are wooded, rocky, and hilly.
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post #10 of 38 Old 02-19-2014, 09:48 AM
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Why were you recording this in the first place? It shows nothing. I mean really nothing. The few glimpses you get of a horse shows a nice calm horse so... I guess I don't see the issue.
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