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        09-18-2013, 11:57 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    In Texas it is required at all state parks but I will say in the last 5 yrs I have never been asked for proof.
         
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        09-19-2013, 12:00 AM
      #12
    Trained
    I get asked every time I go ride. Fish & Game, Park Police, they will all ask to see your Coggins in this state. I even had campus police ask me for my Coggins when I rode in a parade at OSU.
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        09-19-2013, 12:47 AM
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    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Painted Horse    
    Here in Utah, I don't need a coggins to transport a horse inside the state. I do need a Coggins to cross state lines.
    Same here (northern Nevada/California), at least AFAIK. Where we ride (and in the places I hike/bike, and see other people riding), I don't recall ever having seen any sort of official who would be in a position to check. The only places where I think they do check now are the agricultural inspection stations going into California on major highways.
         
        09-19-2013, 02:34 AM
      #14
    Weanling
    The coggins exam is probably the biggest scam in the horse industry. The only thing a coggins shows is that the horse was negative for EIA at the exact moment it is pulled....and that is all.
    That said, as someone else posted, in Texas it is required everywhere. So I pay my 30 bucks and get it done.....but I grumble about it....a lot.
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        09-19-2013, 07:12 AM
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    Yearling
    I agree with 6gun
         
        09-19-2013, 07:46 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
    I guess you two feel like Polio vaccines are a scam as well because, noone YOU know has polio ?
    While we are at it, the heck with HIV testing and TB testing, they must be a scam as well sense it only shows you arnt HIV positive at the moment of testing.
    The reason EIA is so rare now is specifically because of the widespread testing. Laws mandating testing and killing or quarantining infected horses has nearly eradicated the disease. Sure a horse can get it right after the test, but at least all he can do is spread it for 12 months, not 20 years. In the 60's this disease killed alot of horses, some times hundreds at a time, it has a 30% mortality rate.
    Since mandatory testing measures came about in most places in the 70's positive test results have gone from about 12% to less than .016%.

    Its not a scam, its a public equine health issue that needed to be addressed and was. Its people that regurgitate nonsense and convince people not to test their horses that keep the disease going.
         
        09-19-2013, 02:59 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    I agree with 6gun on this one. The test are good for 1 full year, but if my horse is exposed the day after the test was done, even before it is processed, I am still good for that year. Also more recent studies have shown that it isn't nearly as contagious as previously thought. A horse is Mississippi tested positive when it was taken across state lines. It was in a herd of 60 other horses prior to transport, none of the other 60 horses tested positive.

    Joe4d, this isn't a vaccine it is a test to see if the horse has the illness.
         
        09-19-2013, 03:19 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joe4d    
    I guess you two feel like Polio vaccines are a scam as well because, noone YOU know has polio ?
    There's a difference between a vaccine, and a test administered at long intervals. And it does seem rather pointless to require the test for horses that are being trailered to & ridden in places near their home, when there are herds of thousands of untested wild horses roaming the same areas.
         
        09-19-2013, 04:24 PM
      #19
    Showing
    I don't see where Joe stated anywhere that it's a vaccine. In fact, he said TEST more than once, so I don't know why y'all are hammering that point home. He's also correct about the test being used to help eradicate EIA. There is no vaccine for EIA, so the only protocol for it is either lifelong quarantine for horses with it or euthing the ones who have it the worst.

    Regardless of how you personally feel about it, if you plan to take your horse off your property a negative Coggins is required. My two riding horses get blood pulled for it, buy my stay at home retiree does not. It's inexpensive and painless for everyone involved, so I don't know why some of you are willing to risk the health of my horses by not having it done. That's completely selfish and irresponsible.
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        09-19-2013, 04:46 PM
      #20
    Trained
    Just info.. there were 36 positive results out of about 1.5M tests in 2012 (U.S.). The estimated horse population is around 10M (U.S.).
    You can see the results by state at http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/nahss/equine/eia/
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