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    09-19-2013, 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by 6gun Kid    
The coggins exam is probably the biggest scam in the horse industry. The only thing a coggins shows is that the horse was negative for EIA at the exact moment it is pulled....and that is all.
That said, as someone else posted, in Texas it is required everywhere. So I pay my 30 bucks and get it done.....but I grumble about it....a lot.
I agree that it is something of a scam. But it is incurable and some testing rather than none has made it hard to find. I have never had a POS test, or known any other horse owner who had one in my history of horse ownership, since 1985.
I DO know that without it a state can impound your horse and charge you by the day. OP, don't know of ANYWHERE that you can get a one week turnaround on a Coggins! The best I've ever done is 3 weeks, and that was when I tested in February.
For those who don't know, Equine Infectious Anemia is a form of virus similar to Aids. It is not transmittable between horse and human, but a POS result of the blood test will result in the state destroying your horse.
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    09-19-2013, 05:22 PM
Green Broke
Back to the op's concern, if you are in MN and it is not an organized ride stating you have to have a coggins done, you'll be fine. To cross state lines, you should have a health certificate and coggins papers.

We live in ND and have gone into MN several times, even to the state parks that never ask for the papers. We've never been stopped going into or out of MN. That doesn't mean it couldn't happen. We've only been on one organized ride that required a coggins. The rest haven't.
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    09-19-2013, 06:44 PM
Far less of a dumb statement than comparing a coggins test to a vaccine. A vaccine prevents a disease, a coggins only tells you if your horse has one, and only at the exact second the blood is pulled.
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    09-19-2013, 07:04 PM
Corporal, Usually the time involved in getting a Coggins done is the transportation time. If your Vet uses a local lab where he can drop off the blood samples and get a email or fax results back, You can have your results in 3 days.

But my vet ( and I assume many others ) choose to send the blood off in standard mail vs driving across town, My vet sends his to an out of state lab that is cheaper than the local University lab that is nearby. So yeah, mine usually take 2 weeks to get back and I'm fine with that.

But the option is always there to pay Fed Ex for over night delivery or pay for hand delivery for same day delivery to a nearby lab.
    09-19-2013, 09:42 PM
Originally Posted by Joe4d    
I guess you two feel like Polio vaccines are a scam as well because, noone YOU know has polio ?
While we are at it, the heck with HIV testing and TB testing, they must be a scam as well sense it only shows you arnt HIV positive at the moment of testing.
The reason EIA is so rare now is specifically because of the widespread testing. Laws mandating testing and killing or quarantining infected horses has nearly eradicated the disease. Sure a horse can get it right after the test, but at least all he can do is spread it for 12 months, not 20 years. In the 60's this disease killed alot of horses, some times hundreds at a time, it has a 30% mortality rate.
Since mandatory testing measures came about in most places in the 70's positive test results have gone from about 12% to less than .016%.

Its not a scam, its a public equine health issue that needed to be addressed and was. Its people that regurgitate nonsense and convince people not to test their horses that keep the disease going.

Are you under the impression that Coggins is a vaccine? It's not. It's good for a year and it's a crock after the moment it's pulled.
    09-19-2013, 11:31 PM
How long does it take a horse to die if it does have it? If it were to not survive of course. Just curious.
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    09-20-2013, 12:59 AM
Lol Joe didn't say it was a vaccine..He was stating that it's a helpful tool in preventing EIA from creating a whirlwind, just like VACCINES do, along with testing for TB and HIV. With tests like these we can help treat and prevent(in EIA cases, euthanizing to prevent an outbreak).

On another note, we need coggins to transport in my state, I believe. Though all boarding facilities REQUIRE one pulled yearly whether you leave the property or not.
I generally receive my results/paperwork back within a week at most, but I have paid a fee and gotten it back within 2 days.
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    09-20-2013, 03:17 AM
Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
IRegardless of how you personally feel about it, if you plan to take your horse off your property a negative Coggins is required.
Depends on where you live. Hereabouts it's only required if you cross state lines.
    09-20-2013, 08:20 AM
Green Broke
I would contact your county office or even vet and see what they say. They should know State and local laws that could effect you when it comes to coggins.

I know here in KY they changed the law a few years back and not only do we need a current coggins to take the horses off property we also need a health certificate. Do people chance it and not have it done? I'm sure it happens all the time. Does anyone get caught? Yes. I've heard of random checks happening on the trails, though it hasn't happened to me personally. I prefer to be safe than sorry. I'd rather pay for a coggins than a higher priced fine.
    09-20-2013, 03:47 PM
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Yes the coggins is a scam argument is just like some of the people that arent vaccinating their kids because they think its a scam or some government conspiracy. I am fully aware of the difference between vaccine and coggins test. There is no EIA vaccine, its 30 % fatal. That's why the tests are important. Like I said this disease used to kill alot of horses. A positive result is rare now specifically because of widespread testing.
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