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    06-03-2010, 09:20 AM
  #11
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Another thing to worry about here is bears. I have been riding and my horse suddenly stop and get the giraffe neck and staring. Looked across the canyon and there was a bear... We turned and left the area.
I don't like to ride with dogs, sorry,but bears will chase dogs and where does the dog run? Back to its owner.Thats why dogs are not allowed on trails in the parks, etc, the bears will chase the dogs back to the human.
We have big cats here also, like Kevin said, you and your horse may not sense one until its too late. Just be observant and try to be careful where you ride on the wilderness trails.
A wolf was just killed by a car on the main road about 25 miles away from us.... Guess they didn't stay in the Yellowstone Park like the Humaniacs said they would.Trust me, you don't want to see a wolf up close.
     
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    06-03-2010, 10:25 AM
  #12
Weanling
The bears leave us alone It's cave is right near the trail just off a bit... it's been there years. There quite small also, and I've only ever seen a black one.

I've also seen a pack of coyotes, I don't know why but my dog (growled - but stayed close) my horse, my friends horse, my friend, and I just kept doing what we were doing and they left us alone.

The cougar is whats scaring me right now.

Is there only one around normally, or do they stay generally with another I the same area?
     
    06-03-2010, 10:50 AM
  #13
Weanling
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Originally Posted by AQHA    
The bears leave us alone It's cave is right near the trail just off a bit... it's been there years. There quite small also, and I've only ever seen a black one.

I've also seen a pack of coyotes, I don't know why but my dog (growled - but stayed close) my horse, my friends horse, my friend, and I just kept doing what we were doing and they left us alone.

The cougar is whats scaring me right now.

Is there only one around normally, or do they stay generally with another I the same area?
Typically Cyotes are no big deal. I had one that would frequently sit down near my corral and my mare payed him no attention.

Cougars are typically solitary, unless it's breeding season or if it's a mother and cub(s). I agree with what others have said. Another safety measure you could take is bringing a pack mule with you.





Lol. Though they say the lion was actually already dead I will say that I have seen our mule get very aggressive if a dog comes anywhere close! Not sure how he would actually react to a lion! (full story: The mule that killed a mountain lion-Fiction!)
     
    06-03-2010, 11:28 AM
  #14
Foal
I wouldnt worry to much about the dogs getting hurt, and its likely they would rather chase and tree a large cat.

Depending on the breed and size for the dogs I would be at ease knowing they were along.

They use dogs to hunt and 'tree' coyotes, foxes, hogs, large cats, and bears all the time. The packs are not typically large as you still have to train and control all your pooches.

Pigs use large packs. The more the better; its just safer for the dogs. They use packs around 15 dogs give or take.

Pigs are the most dangerous game to hunt with dogs. They lose dogs all the time (remember these are not just pets they are a lively hood for the hunters so while sad, its also life.. Its not often you hear of people losing dogs to foxes, bears, or cats... However a few poor hunters loose their small beagles to coyotes while they are out hunting rabbits.

For rabbits we use one dog (13" beagles are the bomb for this), some guys use 5 or 6 but it just makes it sound cooler.

Coyotes and foxes you run around 6 or so dogs. Foxes you can use little hounds, coyotes you use the 15" plus beagles or foxhounds... typically.

Often for bear you run a pack oflarge hounds like 3-6 dogs.

Bobcats and Lions are better for smaller packs of large hounds. 2-3dogs typically.

I was always told 3 dogs if your training (as in two old dogs and a young dog) and 2 if you want the animal caught. (as in you only need your two best dogs to tree the prey)

The louder the dog the better.

Usually unless you hunting foxes you use a type of coonhound (well for pigs they usually use a catahoula which is a type of hound) or coonhound cross. There are a number of coonhound breeds, the most popular being the Black and Tan Coonhound, Bluetick Coonhound, Redbone Coonhound, Plott Hound, and Treeing Walker Coonhound.
They are not super large dogs, and often are slender and not heavily built.

...anyway back on topic
     
    06-03-2010, 11:47 AM
  #15
Weanling
Well that's my trail riding season over. Lol.

We definitely have cougars in our area and I've always been worried. Not concerned about black bears though. Our friends a few kilometers up the road have cougars through their backyards but we haven't in ours - there's a few big guard dogs next door and a hunting dog breeder (with 16 dogs - 13 are puppies from ONE current litter) living below us.
     
    06-03-2010, 12:11 PM
  #16
Trained
Coyotes are big chickens in a fur coat. I have tons around the area and I see at least five every day. I walk back on my own behind the property unarmed and chase those things. I swear, when the entire pack runs its sad.

I like that pack mule idea. I might have to take Toni's old mule Muffins out next time lol. I love that mule....she's such a sweetheart
     
    06-03-2010, 12:11 PM
  #17
Trained
Don't let fear of cougars stop you from riding. It is quite rare to see one and it is astronomically rare to have one attack. Make plenty of noise and don't run away and they will not hurt you most of the time. If you trail ride you have probably been closer to a cougar than you know.
     
    06-03-2010, 12:18 PM
  #18
Trained
Yes, I second that, Kevin.

Even in my area (High and prime animal country. Cougars, bear, coyotes, the whole nine yards) I have never seen a cat on horseback.
     
    06-03-2010, 12:21 PM
  #19
Weanling
Thanks, Kevin. I'll quote you to my Australin/New Zealand friends who are coming out in 2 months for my wedding. I try and rationalize the Canadaian wilderness to them, but I'm pretty sure the majority will step off the plane with bear spray dangling from their necks on a rope. And I'll say, 'But Kevinshorses says the odds are astronomical.' Then I'll take them camping in the Rockies.

I still am too nervous to trail ride though without dogs and a partner though. I'm content at the moment on the 'safe' trails to the lake. No need to go too bush at the moment.
     
    06-03-2010, 12:32 PM
  #20
Foal
I'd be way more worried about the wierd freaks lurking in the shadows and around the corner then a lil ole lion!
     

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