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    06-04-2010, 01:01 AM
  #31
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As far as using dogs to protect you, get a fat slow dog that you can outrun and then you don't have to worry about getting mauled.


You gotta love Kevins comments sometimes. If I'm every riding where there are cougars I will be sure to bring me a fat, slow cougar snack
     
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    06-04-2010, 01:26 AM
  #32
Trained
Northern, I really do respect you as a person and look forward to getting advice from you on every post I make, but this time I'm not getting ny sense from your posts. If cats won't get deterred by making yoursel bigger, what are you going to do? Make yourself smaller?

There is NOTHING you can do if that cougar is dead set on picking you up, but honestly, cats do NOT hunt humans by nature. We have the aura of another predator. And they are NOT killing machines. They are doing what nature designated them to do. We were originally killers. We still are killers. The only differance is the cat has an excuse. We don't. I have dealt with and worked with big cats before. They run purely on instinct just like any other wild animal. They serve a purpose.

They don't go hunting humans just to kill. They kill what they can eat and they eat to survive. What woudl you do in the cats situation? If you don't think any of our methods work, what would you do? We've already covered the weapons and amking yourself bigger. What do you think?
     
    06-04-2010, 02:55 AM
  #33
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First, one point for the prey animal!

Go to Youtube small zebra destroys African lion if you want to see a zebra with guts & brains!

Ok, Sorrel: The info I gave is true & the site confirms it. The only reason I'm sharing the info is that I don't want more people to get attacked because they hiked alone, figured Fido'd get attacked instead of them, thought they were safe because it wasn't dawn nor dusk, etc. To say that attacks are rare is inaccurate because attacks are cumulative over time, conditions, like urban encroachment & game availability are always in flux, & humans don't know enough to predict lions' behavior.

I understand that the Big Cats are not murdering humans, & Leonard Doty understood that, too; the point is that lions are opportunistic, highly efficient killers. Please don't assume that I want them extinguished for the sake of mankind's safety on every square inch of earth.

I'm interested to know, Sorrelhorse, in what way you have "dealt with and worked with big cats". ??
     
    06-04-2010, 08:52 AM
  #34
Banned
Ok, so now we all know and understand. If you live in cougar country you have to hide inside with your dogs during all hours of the day, doors locked for extra saftey. Make sure all glass windows have bars, as cats could easily jump through a window.

Oh, and never trail ride again or you will be eaten by a man-hungry monster beast that stalks people in the hot daytime sun... while deer stand nearby munching...

Have fun with that... I'll take my chances...
     
    06-04-2010, 02:15 PM
  #35
Green Broke
I live in cougar country and have never even SEEN a cougar. I would love to see one (everyone looks at me crazy when I say that) but honestly, I would love to see one.

I never even think about cougars when I ride (other than hoping maybe one day to see one).

In the summer I usually have a friend or two to ride with, but in the winter I almost always ride alone.

We see lots of elk, turkey, deer and javalina. I recently saw my first black bear (when we were driving a dirt road on the way to find a place to park and ride).

My main concerns when out riding on the national forest are not getting lost and not getting shot during hunting season.

Wildlife is a joy, not something I worry about. (I always carry at least one elk call so I can talk to the elk if I see them.) I feel safer on a horse than on foot, because while I feel I might not notice something on foot, I feel pretty confident that on horseback between me and my horse, we see and smell most everything.
     
    06-04-2010, 03:25 PM
  #36
Showing
I went and looked at that website Northern posted.

From 2001 through 2009 there were a total of 37 injury reports, with only 4 of them resulting in death.

That's 9 years worth of data for the entire U.S.A., and only 37 injury reports? C'mon, let's use a little common sense!

You're much more likely to die from horseback riding than you are from getting attacked by a cougar. Better stay off those horses!
     
    06-04-2010, 03:29 PM
  #37
Yearling
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
As far as using dogs to protect you, get a fat slow dog that you can outrun and then you don't have to worry about getting mauled.
I know you mean that as a joke, but seriously, if a cougar (or anything else) attacks my dog, it's going to be attacked by me.

I don't really understand why people get so worked up about cougars. Even in cougar country, there aren't all that many of them to begin with. (I've never seen one.) And really, deaths from cougar attacks are incredibly rare: the Wikipedia page lists 23 in North America between 1890 and 2010: List of fatal cougar attacks in North America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So if you need to worry, worry about getting hit by lightning or dying from a bee sting. Or a car crash driving to/from your trailhead.
     
    06-04-2010, 03:49 PM
  #38
Started
Illcomalopin, you shouldn't've invalidated my points by your inappropriate sarcasm. To all, there's nothing more that I can say on the subject, is there?!
     
    06-04-2010, 05:24 PM
  #39
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
I live in cougar country and have never even SEEN a cougar. I would love to see one (everyone looks at me crazy when I say that) but honestly, I would love to see one.

I never even think about cougars when I ride (other than hoping maybe one day to see one).

In the summer I usually have a friend or two to ride with, but in the winter I almost always ride alone.

We see lots of elk, turkey, deer and javalina. I recently saw my first black bear (when we were driving a dirt road on the way to find a place to park and ride).

My main concerns when out riding on the national forest are not getting lost and not getting shot during hunting season.

Wildlife is a joy, not something I worry about. (I always carry at least one elk call so I can talk to the elk if I see them.) I feel safer on a horse than on foot, because while I feel I might not notice something on foot, I feel pretty confident that on horseback between me and my horse, we see and smell most everything.
same! I have always wanted to see one!this might sound stupid, but thwere was one in our local park that had killed a few deer... so everyone stayed out of the park... haha stupid as it was... I biked through there everyday looking for it XD
     
    06-05-2010, 07:05 PM
  #40
Trained
In all my years of trail riding, I've never seen a cougar, wolf, bear, etc...I've experienced more problems from domestic pets, both on the farm and on the trail...SO, while my eyes are always peeled, I just don't think that wild predators sit out in the woods thinking "okay, gotta wait for the trail riders to come" in order to get a meal; they are far more suspicious of us, than we are or should be of them.

That's not to say it doesn't happen, because it has, but the occurrences of it are much more slim than me falling off my horse and bustin' my head open because my horse spooks at a bird fluttering out of the brush.
     

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