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        09-15-2013, 08:56 AM
      #11
    Foal
    This is garlicbunny’s hubby. Truly appreciate all the words of advice. Since I am an admittedly a green trail rider, with nowhere near the trail experience/confidence of my wife, I am particularly interested in any recommend trails to hit that don’t have treacherous assents/descents/near cliff-experiences. To say I am not fond of heights is an understatement, and my mare has a tendency to suddenly spook on occasions, with no forewarning. We went to Hocking Hills earlier this summer and I was totally uncomfortable with some areas on the trail. So much so, that I told Patti I never want to go back.
    I am particularly interested in any recommended trails. I took note of Gunslinger’s and RhondaLynn’s comments on specific trails and I also saw Rhonda’s offer to check out the map and tell of the trails “we love”. Also took notes of comments you made in another thread. That would be great if you could do such, and it would be most appreciated. Also would welcom Gunslinger’s recommendation on if the two “ridge” trails are something we might want to avoid, given my adversion to dropping off cliffs .
    This trip is celebrating our 35th and I’d rather not have it be our last. We’ll be making plans for six days of riding and very much looking forward to it.
         
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        09-15-2013, 10:27 AM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xNightHawk    
    This is garlicbunny’s hubby. Truly appreciate all the words of advice. Since I am an admittedly a green trail rider, with nowhere near the trail experience/confidence of my wife, I am particularly interested in any recommend trails to hit that don’t have treacherous assents/descents/near cliff-experiences. To say I am not fond of heights is an understatement, and my mare has a tendency to suddenly spook on occasions, with no forewarning. We went to Hocking Hills earlier this summer and I was totally uncomfortable with some areas on the trail. So much so, that I told Patti I never want to go back.
    I am particularly interested in any recommended trails. I took note of Gunslinger’s and RhondaLynn’s comments on specific trails and I also saw Rhonda’s offer to check out the map and tell of the trails “we love”. Also took notes of comments you made in another thread. That would be great if you could do such, and it would be most appreciated. Also would welcom Gunslinger’s recommendation on if the two “ridge” trails are something we might want to avoid, given my adversion to dropping off cliffs .
    This trip is celebrating our 35th and I’d rather not have it be our last. We’ll be making plans for six days of riding and very much looking forward to it.
    35....wow...congratulation..

    The nature of Big South Fork is to ride up and down, or top to bottom and back along the Cumberland Plateau. Most of the trails are going to start at the top and descend into the gorge and then at some point climb out and that's what the Cumberland Valley trail does.

    The Jacks Ridge Trail starts near Bandy Camp and while you can drop down into a ravine or gorge you don't have to.

    Truthfully, I didn't find either to these trails to be very challenging. The trails were groomed where they could be, and although they're steep in places and muddy as well, they're still a somewhat easy ride for the most part. By groomed, I mean many places had been sanded and blow downs cleared. Low limbs cut etc. The NPS really seems to put a lot of effort into these trails. The trails are wide allowing for side by side riding in most places, but not all places.

    Maybe my perception is a bit biased because the trails in SE Tennessee and N. Georgia in the Cherokee and Chattahoochie NF's are poorly maintained and seldom cleared. Just getting to the trail heads is an adventure.....The mountain trials are steep and blow downs can be problematic. My ride at Sumac creek yesterday required the use of a saw .....
    So really, while our ride at BSF was very nice, it was also a little boring as I didn't find it technically challenging at all.

    I've been told there are some trails that are somewhat difficult but the two I mentioned should be good for you, but then again, there is the drop off into the gorge which is a little rocky and steep in places, a beautiful ride along the river in the bottom and then a climb out. I don't remember cliffs so I think you're good there....

    You're going to love the place....really....it's set up for the equine community.......a true equine Disney land.....
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        09-15-2013, 10:38 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    I just looked and I did save the gps track log from our Cumberland Trail log which I've attached.

    From the Topo you can see there is a drop off into the gorge near the south eastern part of the map....and then a climb back out near the north eastern part and a long ride along the top going east to west.

    The vertical profile shows the steep decent but don't let that scare you as it really isn't as bad as it looks.....lots of switch backs....you lose about 700 feet of elevation in a mile or so....
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    File Type: jpg Cumberland vertical profile.jpg (36.0 KB, 42 views)
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        09-15-2013, 10:47 AM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Here's the Jacks Ridge Topo and Vertical.

    Not sure if you mentioned where you're staying, but the locals at the campgrounds should be able to make some recommendations as to what trails might suit you as well.

    Jacks Ridge loop.jpg

    Jacks Ridge vertical profile.jpg
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        09-15-2013, 05:51 PM
      #15
    Foal
    Gunslinger, you provided a wealth of information and we thank you. Both Jacks Ridge Trail and the Cumberland Trail will be on our agenda. Non-challenging trails is good for a relative newbe, so I'll be ok with that. Nice GPS data you shared. What are you using - a handheld device - or a smart phone? Again thank you for all the info! We are definitely looking forward to the equine Disney Land.
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        09-16-2013, 09:51 AM
      #16
    Weanling
    I agree with everything gunslinger says. I have ridden with him and he is not a rider who has to have the adrenaline flowing to enjoy riding. THANK GOODNESS.

    I also do not like to ride extreme heights or cliffs. There are some of those places in BSF but they are fairly short stretches so you can get off your horse and walk. I have walked plenty up there because I HATE riding a steep downhill, I had a horse fall with me on a downhill, so I am a scaredy cat on the downhill. I will be happy to get my maps and tell you the names of the trails we love. Most are not extreme... my hubby and I are too old (married 37 years) to get hurt when we can avoid it.
    You will love Whisperwood. It is convenient to most of the trails plus the cabin is cozy!! We will be there at the beginning of November. The stalls in the barn are very small and not really good to KEEP your horse in but the turn out area is nice. NO grazing so take plenty of hay.
    I will get back to you tomorrow, I have to check out my maps to remember the names of the trails.

    Rhonda
         
        09-16-2013, 04:45 PM
      #17
    Green Broke
    I thought I had a pretty nice map collection......until I met Rhonda Lynn and her DH......she's got her's way more organized than mine that's for sure.....it's kind of funny because I seldom meet anyone with the same kind of passion for maps as I have. She does and it makes for some interesting conversation for sure. I keep waiting on another invitation to ride with her and her DH so I can see what she's added to her map collection.

    Rhonda Lynn, we've got a campsite reserved the last week of September at Cataloochee in The Great Smokey Mountains National Park....and space available....consider yourself and DH invited.....

    To answer your question, I have a couple of hand helds, a Garmin etrex Hcx, and a Garmin 60csx.....Mapsource is the application I use on the computer, and the Topo is The SE United States Topo, and both can be downloaded from gpsfiledepot.com at no cost. I tie one on my horn bag and the other on DW's saddle bag.....

    If you get a chance, a good high level map of the area is National Geographics Trails Illustrated for Big South Fork. There again, Rhonda Lynn probably has a couple of more she'd recommend....as again, I'm humbled by her collection.

    One other thing...If you ever watched the movie "Alvin York" staring Gary Cooper, there's a scene where Alvin goes to Kentucky to visit a bar......that part of the movie is true to life and most of the area to this very day is dry. This isn't an issue for me, but it is for some so if you want an adult beverage then you'll need to bring it with you.

    Again, take your time, enjoy the ride, get off and walk if you need to, but above all, have a great time and stay safe.
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        09-16-2013, 05:09 PM
      #18
    Trained
    Shoe ALL FOUR. I've had one shoe off in the Black Hills, SD, on my QH "Ro Go Bar" (1982-2009, RIP), many years ago. It came off midway a long ride. We almost didn't have enough hoof left to reshoe. You can always pull when you get back, label, and your farrier can reshoe with them again.
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        09-16-2013, 07:04 PM
      #19
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RhondaLynn    
    I agree with everything gunslinger says. I have ridden with him and he is not a rider who has to have the adrenaline flowing to enjoy riding. THANK GOODNESS.

    I also do not like to ride extreme heights or cliffs. There are some of those places in BSF but they are fairly short stretches so you can get off your horse and walk. I have walked plenty up there because I HATE riding a steep downhill, I had a horse fall with me on a downhill, so I am a scaredy cat on the downhill. I will be happy to get my maps and tell you the names of the trails we love. Most are not extreme... my hubby and I are too old (married 37 years) to get hurt when we can avoid it.
    You will love Whisperwood. It is convenient to most of the trails plus the cabin is cozy!! We will be there at the beginning of November. The stalls in the barn are very small and not really good to KEEP your horse in but the turn out area is nice. NO grazing so take plenty of hay.
    I will get back to you tomorrow, I have to check out my maps to remember the names of the trails.

    Rhonda
    Thank you Rhonda! Base on your recommendations and Gunslinger's we have at least 3 rides on the list. And I will say congrats on the long marriage. I am going to guess you married young and you're not "too" old, just like the wife and I. Over the summer, my wife and I have been on more than one trail that "I" shouldn't have been on. This past weekend, I was again in a spot where I was uncomfortable again, and the wife found that slightly funny (maybe we won't see #36). We had a couple of other very steep accents/decents earlier this summer. It never dawned on me at that time to get off and walk it. I picked that up reading the horse forum this weekend. I see the Gunslinger paid you some complements on your extensive map library. I'll comment on that in response to his reply. We are very much looking forward to the Whisperwood cabin and first riding in TN. Again, thank you!
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        09-16-2013, 07:19 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Gunslinger, appreciated your answer on your GPS devices. I suspect your Garmin etrex Hcx and 60csx are more recent devices compared to my Oregon 450T. We use it primarily for tracking mileage as it's very difficult to see/read the map display. Probably overdue to upgrade. I have been using a smart phone for local rides and it provides a nice display, but doesn't do us any good when were out in the sticks (loses signals). I have much to learn in that area. Our son graduated back in May with a Geographical Information Sciences (GIS) degree. He just had a phone interview with Garmin last week and will hopefully be invited to KS for a formal interview…maybe I’ll get a discount some day. Also appreciate the forewarning on the lack of adult beverages down there, we seen the same thing when we went to Mammoth Cave in KY this summer. May need such for the total experience. Thank you Gunslinger!
         

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