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post #11 of 33 Old 07-30-2011, 01:28 PM
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As long as you have control, use whatever you like.
I actually think it would be worse to go trail riding in tack you and your horse weren't familiar with and comfortable using.
I've trail ridden in a halter and lead rope several times.
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post #12 of 33 Old 07-30-2011, 03:29 PM
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I agree, that lady was out of line. She did not know you or your horses, so she should have kept her mouth shut. The rule that should be written in stone is don't make assumptions about other peoples horses and keep your mouth shut unless something their horse is doing directly effects you.
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post #13 of 33 Old 07-30-2011, 09:31 PM
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I would have told her to mind her own business, I am being nice when I say this. Of all the years I have been on trail, I have never had anyone make such a direct/rude comment to me. I call them do good-ers. When I am on trail, I could give a rat's a** what people choose for tack. Unless I am asked for an opinion, I keep my mouth shut, what a bit**.
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post #14 of 33 Old 07-30-2011, 09:35 PM
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Wow. I've never heard of this "rule". In fact, bitless is encouraged in my sect of trail riding.

Hackamores have a good deal of bite; more than some snaffles or even curbs. This lady didn't seem to know her tack. Hackamores aren't like riding in a halter, folks.
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post #15 of 33 Old 07-30-2011, 09:42 PM
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Even if someone chooses to ride in a halter, so be it. If their horse responds well, so be it. There isn't ONE way to achieve positive results....UGH, do-gooders.
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post #16 of 33 Old 07-30-2011, 10:31 PM
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All I ever use are Hackamores. Heck ,,,, ride with twine if that's all your horses need and have a good ole time.
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post #17 of 33 Old 07-31-2011, 09:12 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys. I feel better, now. I had very few problems with Dancer on the trail - she was one of the better behaved ones, in fact. Not to mention it was her first trail ride - she was never ridden anywhere but in her pasture before I got her. The only problem I had would not have been fixed by a bit - she got tired (she was carrying twice the weight the other horses were carrying - I'm hugely fat!) and she got a little pissy when she got tired. She was never "out of control," she just pawed the ground when asked to stand and wait for the other riders to finish practicing going across the teeter totter obstacle on the trail. Because of her breed/build, when she pawed, she had a LOT of knee action when she was pawing, and her nose was touching her chest - made it a little scary to those not familiar with her or the breeding. (Those of us who knew Dancer, and the background of the Spanish Mustangs weren't particularly impressed.) A bit wouldn't have fixed that. A quick smack on the neck sure did. That was the only bad moment she had on the trail.

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post #18 of 33 Old 07-31-2011, 06:31 PM
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I'm guessing if someone had the nerve to say something things may have been worse than you think. As you said you had to hit her on the neck. Sounds like the little girl could use more time with a trainer. JMO
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Thanks guys. I feel better, now. I had very few problems with Dancer on the trail - she was one of the better behaved ones, in fact. Not to mention it was her first trail ride - she was never ridden anywhere but in her pasture before I got her. The only problem I had would not have been fixed by a bit - she got tired (she was carrying twice the weight the other horses were carrying - I'm hugely fat!) and she got a little pissy when she got tired. She was never "out of control," she just pawed the ground when asked to stand and wait for the other riders to finish practicing going across the teeter totter obstacle on the trail. Because of her breed/build, when she pawed, she had a LOT of knee action when she was pawing, and her nose was touching her chest - made it a little scary to those not familiar with her or the breeding. (Those of us who knew Dancer, and the background of the Spanish Mustangs weren't particularly impressed.) A bit wouldn't have fixed that. A quick smack on the neck sure did. That was the only bad moment she had on the trail.
Her first time on trail and all she did was paw? She just needs more miles/exposure. Being that it was her first time on trail, her behavior isn't abnormal and in my opinion not bad at all. She sounds like she was a little insecure/impatient which isn't abnormal. It's all new to her. What is a trainer going to do for you if he/she isn't taking your horse on trail and around other horses while on trail and exposing her to obstacles? I've seen horses with many years of arena training/time on them and when the horse gets out on trail, it's like the horse is a kid in a candy store. They are unruly. Work her while on trail, take her up hills and around trees, keep her mind working. Over time they figure it out. Consistance...
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post #20 of 33 Old 08-01-2011, 01:04 PM Thread Starter
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Of the fifteen people in our group, three were professional trainers that were taking greenbroke horses out for their first time. One of the trainers is the one that trained daughter's horse for her and has given both of us lots of good advice on dealing with our horses. Dancer was a real bi*** when we first got her. Without the advice and encouragement of that trainer, Dancer would probably not have been rideable at all today. She gave me tips and tricks to use to help bring Dancer under control in the saddle. I wasn't upset by her pawing - and the other lady's comment about needing a bit were long before the pawing incident. That lady was NOT a professional trainer. All three trainers thought Dancer did very well - especially for a first timer. There were horses with a lot more trail experience than Dancer that didn't behave nearly as well - some were pretty scary! I just thought that there might have been something about trail etiquette that required a bit or something the way that one lady was talking.

BTW - Dancer and I have been invited to go on a moonlight trail ride by another group. Some of their members were with us on her first ride and thought she did fine. It will be on the same trail, but it won't be nearly as hot. Daughter and I are thinking about going - if my foot heals up enough by then.

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