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    04-09-2012, 12:12 PM
  #21
Yearling
It's a bit much to cover here, but you might like to get in touch with some people who do field trials with horses (vs the strickly dog field trials). Of course you would be looking at just the training portion that involved training the horses and dogs working together and not the competition training that is mostly for the dogs.

Dogs and horse can do quite well together. The only problem I've had so far was years ago I had a Malamute that could be very agressive towards other dogs (he wanted to be the alpha male for ever canine alive). Holding him on a lead was difficult then. I over came it by teaching him to jump into the saddle with me so I could keep him there until we had passed any dogs we encountered. It was a bit much and my QH was the only one I could ride with him, since the other horses wouldn't deal with him jumping up into the saddle.
Other dogs I've had did well and would basically heel along side the horse as if we were taking a walk, but I kept them on a lead unless we were just riding around the farm.
And of course there's the potential problem that's already been mentioned for when other dogs are encountered and how they will act. You can't always just trot off, since they will often follow. Things are seldom easy.
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    04-09-2012, 12:22 PM
  #22
Started
Never thought of that its lbs not miles... I will look into that :)
     
    04-09-2012, 12:22 PM
  #23
Foal
I did this for the first time 2 days ago. I was going to a tradeday and my dog went with me. Its about 3 miles on trails and 1 1/2 on hardtop, then a short dirt road. When we were close I put him on a leash because there are alot of dogs there. He done alright because he is so good on a leash when im on the ground but he wanted to walk alittle to close to my horse. And he had to switch sides because he always walks on my right side and he was on the left. He went behind her so it was no problem. If he would have went underneth her I would have just droped the rope. My horse doesnt care what ya do although she does hate dogs but she ushally wont be aggresive to other animals while i'm on her. Doing that could be very dangerous though. Get your dog very well leash trained first then do it from your horse and be sure she's comfortable that close to your horse. When we are on hard top he's ushally off the road but when a vehicle comes I make him get on the inside away from the car beside me and hold my hand down like I would if I had a leash, but there is no leash and he stays. Oh and my horse will neck rein so its easy with one hand, the dog is also 8 months old.
Can someone tell me more about the vibrating collar? I'v never heard of it before and sounds like it would be muuch help. My dog gets destracted alot and that would be a much easyer way to get his mind off other things.
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    04-09-2012, 12:31 PM
  #24
Weanling
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Originally Posted by shandasue    
I did this for the first time 2 days ago. I was going to a tradeday and my dog went with me. Its about 3 miles on trails and 1 1/2 on hardtop, then a short dirt road. When we were close I put him on a leash because there are alot of dogs there. He done alright because he is so good on a leash when im on the ground but he wanted to walk alittle to close to my horse. And he had to switch sides because he always walks on my right side and he was on the left. He went behind her so it was no problem. If he would have went underneth her I would have just droped the rope. My horse doesnt care what ya do although she does hate dogs but she ushally wont be aggresive to other animals while i'm on her. Doing that could be very dangerous though. Get your dog very well leash trained first then do it from your horse and be sure she's comfortable that close to your horse. When we are on hard top he's ushally off the road but when a vehicle comes I make him get on the inside away from the car beside me and hold my hand down like I would if I had a leash, but there is no leash and he stays. Oh and my horse will neck rein so its easy with one hand, the dog is also 8 months old.
Can someone tell me more about the vibrating collar? I'v never heard of it before and sounds like it would be muuch help. My dog gets destracted alot and that would be a much easyer way to get his mind off other things.
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I'd be careful about dropping the lead too.. it might turn okay 90% of the time, but I've also seen a dog stepped on when the horse stepped on the lead and the dog got trapped.

For vibrating collars, I recommend Dogtra or Tritronics (Tritonics is a little more expensive though). Don't buy a cheap brand as it won't be worth it in the long run (battery life, range, consistency and overall length of life). Vibration Collars from Dogtra. are some of there's new, expensive but worth it.

Mine is an electric/vibrating but I just use the vibrating option. The collar is completely waterproof, which is good because my dog likes to go swim in the creek, and the remote is mostly waterproof (for rain). I bought mine used for $75 and I have not regretted it, it's been a life saver.
     
    04-09-2012, 03:18 PM
  #25
Foal
For some reason this darn thing won't let me quote right now, but Wow, It's lbs. Not miles, having a Malamute jump on your horse is amazing! What a picture I have in my mind of you, your horse and this dog all there together!
     
    04-09-2012, 04:45 PM
  #26
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If your horse isn't used to having dogs right under their feet, I would not suggest doing this. I did use this method when my dog was a puppy; however, the horse I used was a foxhunter and always paid attention to where the dog was. There are too many risks involved.

What I suggest doing is start turning your horse out with your dog attached to a leash walking along side of you. This way, the dog and horse get used being close together before you are on the horse.
     
    04-09-2012, 04:49 PM
  #27
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If your horse isn't used to having dogs right under their feet, I would not suggest doing this. I did use this method when my dog was a puppy; however, the horse I used was a foxhunter and always paid attention to where the dog was. There are too many risks involved.

What I suggest doing is start turning your horse out with your dog attached to a leash walking along side of you. This way, the dog and horse get used being close together before you are on the horse.
they are very comfortable with eachother...the puppy runs around his feet while he is eating and in the field and the 3 times I have taken puppy out on the small rides around the neighboring farms my horse will pay attention to where she is ...accouple of time I thought she was a gonner but my horse walked around her and made sure not to step on her...
So I guess that's a plus...
     
    04-09-2012, 09:36 PM
  #28
Yearling
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Originally Posted by mypets    
For some reason this darn thing won't let me quote right now, but Wow, It's lbs. Not miles, having a Malamute jump on your horse is amazing! What a picture I have in my mind of you, your horse and this dog all there together!
It was the only way I could afford to take him with me when riding. Otherwise he'd be forcing any dog that came out to "submit". He was 115+ lbs of "I'm the Alpha dog", but he was great with people and other animals.
Those who saw it liked to have him do it again (and again sometimes). My white Malamute jumping into the saddle on my white QH mare. She was the real angel and would stop and stand for him to leap onto the saddle. When he first was learning to do it he about knocked me out of the saddle couple of times. Not really the most comfortable situation either. He was so large he would be squeezed in between my abdomen and the pommel. I couldn't stand it for more than about 0.1 of a mile. It's not something I'd recommend with such a large dog. Today I'd have just secured him at home.
Tried to teach our TW to let him do it, but that was not a pretty sight. I gave up. Figured the one horse was enough. But the TW was the most comfortable riding horse we had, so it would have been nice. Just couldn't let the dog come unless I was riding my QH.
     
    04-09-2012, 10:46 PM
  #29
Green Broke
Wow, that's crazy. I've seen people ride with a puppy, but a big ol' malamute -no way.
Kait-I don't have any tricks. Sorry. I dismount every time I let the dog on and off the leash. My dogs obey basic commands and the horses are used to dogs.
My dogs were for the most part raised around horses, and have a healthy respect for them and their feet. It would have be something pretty terrifying for them to go under the horse. I also don't ride on high traffic trails with the dog.
I like the idea of the vibrating collar. I'll have to get one of those.
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    04-09-2012, 10:54 PM
  #30
Trained
A lot of quail hunters around here say that they exercise their dogs from horseback using a roading harness.

Roading Harness

I wouldn't try this from my horse if you said you would shoot me otherwise. The shooting death might be less painful than the certain death that "psycho princess arab" would kill me with.

I often take my dog with me off leash. I have had dogs in the past that stayed perfectly with the horse. That is awesome because they warn you of "spooks" in the road before you get to them. The dog that I have now is not so great with it. She gets distracted, wanders into the woods, and then remembers how much she loves me; she charges wildly out of the bushes and scares the devil out of my horse. Since she doesn't stay right with me, I can't take her unless it is on our property and far away from the highway.
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