Encountering bicyclists on the trails/rds - Page 3
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Riding Horses > Trail Riding

Encountering bicyclists on the trails/rds

This is a discussion on Encountering bicyclists on the trails/rds within the Trail Riding forums, part of the Riding Horses category
  • Bikers tease my dog

Like Tree36Likes

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    05-02-2012, 12:21 PM
  #21
Green Broke
I have to agree with mildot, and my hubby is a pro triathlete who goes on 4-hr long road bike rides at a ridiculous speed ;) BUT he has enough sense not to ride in the middle of the darn road and he would NEVER go flying past someone on horseback...and he doesn't ride. He just has common sense. I used to do Tri's myself and when I would go out on a shared trail to ride my bike, I ALWAYS alerted those I was coming up on by saying "On your left" far enough ahead for them to look back at me and know I was coming, and I would slow my pace as well.

For horses, I would ask permission to pass, knowing that some are spookier than others and I always received "You're good, thanks!" No one ever told me "NO you can't pass me!!" They just appreciated the heads up for themselves, to ready themselves in case their horse spooked. Had I gone shooting up the horse's side and he kicked me in the face, it would have been my own darn fault for being a moron.

Same thing with dogs on trail...I don't go blasting past someone's dog either, JUST IN CASE. What if the dog gets scared and attacks me? Or what if it's just an aggressive dog in general? I stay out of leash-range with anyone's dogs. If I ran right up on one and he bit me, MY FAULT not the owner's and not the dog's, given he's on a leash and under control of course. I hate when people place the blame on the animals for their own stupidity and carelessness.

I teased my dog once when I was a little kid, because I thought it was funny. She bit me in the face. Did she get in trouble? NOPE...did I? YEP for teasing the dog! And I deserved it! It was my own stupidity that caused the reaction I got. People need to show more responsibility for their actions.
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    05-02-2012, 12:31 PM
  #22
Green Broke
I think that on of the first things you need to do is find out where you stand. Who is in charge of the trails, City, State, etc? Then dig deeper and find out what the "rules of the road" are so to speak. Are they posted anywhere visible? When I road in CA, the trails I road on were multipurpose with right of way always going to horse's first but not everybody obeyed that. Where I ride now, horse's have their own trails although sometimes they go alongside a bike/pedestrian trail which can be a little scary for a horse if they aren't used to it.

Once you find out the rules, and who manages the trails you have a little more knowledge of where you stand. First I would contact whomever manages and request that "right of way" postings are put up so that everyone using the trail know's who has the right of way. In some states you can also let them know that there is a right of way issue and sometimes they will come out, walk the trails and do some "education" where needed.

Sadly, that is about all you can do... you are sort of stuck with whatever the entity in charge of the trail is willing to do about it.
     
    05-02-2012, 12:37 PM
  #23
Green Broke
There are way more bikes than horses, start complaining too loudly and you will find a bureaucrat fixing the problem real quick with a No horse's sign.
COming up from behind is one thing. But I wouldnt expect a biker to dismount and stop if they are coming from the opposite direction on trail that is plenty wide enough to safely pass, out of "leash range" Speaking and giving notice is more than enough. No different than a horse rider passing another horse. I don't bike ride much an dnever around horses but I am riding at a public park and feel they have as much right to the trails as I do.
     
    05-02-2012, 12:54 PM
  #24
Weanling
I also ride with lots of bikers around. Where I live is the Pinhoti trail and there are lots of bikes/thru hikers.

I would have a problem with someone, anyone coming up from behind, quietly! I usually hear or my horse hears "something" from behind and we stop and turn toward the approaching thing.. once she see's it is human, she is fine.

I alway call out to hikers and bikers that way the horse can hear that they are human. Once we encountered a motor bike with the rider having ALL the body armour with helmet.. It took the horses a long while to figure that one out.. the biker had to take his helmet off and let the horse see he was human..

We generally don't have a problem.. I think posting signs woud help. They are probably just dumb to the danger they are putting everyone in.

Rhonda
Cinnys Whinny and Corporal like this.
     
    05-02-2012, 01:18 PM
  #25
Trained
GREAT thread. For those who do NOT trail-ride, understand that if you keep your horse long enough, you will eventually take him/her out on a PUBLIC city/state/national trail that we share with hikers and bikers. This has been talked about for over 30 years now, that is HOW to safely ride there without be hurt or harrassed by the people who are less than polite and/or downright dangerous. But the POINT to remember is that there are factions who think that ANY use of these trails puts the environment in jeopardy. THEY want ALL of us to have NO access to these places that our taxes pay for, and they are hoping for fights between groups of users as an excuse to ban us from hiking, biking and riding these trails.
I like the idea of speaking at bike clubs. We have the internet, now, so perhaps those who bike and ride should consider talking to their biking friends about the dangers of riding up quietly and spooking horses. Perhaps something as simple as a campaign for bikers to voluntarily purchase and use one of those old manual bells that kids used to have on the front by the brakes. Something like this~
Incredibell Duet Brass Bell at WesternBikeworks
They aren't loud and I'm sure that your horse could get used to the bell quickly, ESPECIALLY if you buy one and desensitize at home, too.
     
    05-02-2012, 01:45 PM
  #26
Green Broke
You know that's a good point, the ones I see I usually tell them if they just talk most horses will ignore them. I have some coworkers very involved in MT biking sports. I should make it a point to pass that along to them see if I can spread the word.
     
    05-02-2012, 04:45 PM
  #27
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by mildot    
A better reminder would be a broken femur from a horse kick.
LOL, that would certainly get the point across.

It's easy to forget, though, that most people just don't know a thing about horses. They really don't. The things that we take for granted, the subtle signs and body language we pick up on is totally "lost" on the average Joe Q Public who once went on an hour-long nose-to-tail guided trail ride while on vacation. These are the people who think that what they see in movies and television is an accurate portrayal of horse behavior.

Generally, I'm willing to give pedestrians and cyclists the benefit of the doubt and try to educate them (in a friendly way) about multi-user trail etiquette. Sometimes it just doesn't work, in which case I'll tell them that their behavior is a good way to get themselves kicked. Hard.
mildot likes this.
     
    05-04-2012, 08:45 AM
  #28
Yearling
We have a horse camp in our area with horse trails that cross bike trails. Hubby and I were walking along chit chatting when out of the blue two bikers came flying over a hill and slammed on the brakes shy of the intersection which is close to that hill. The first guy was frustrated as to why we did not hear his little ringy bell on his bike. We cannot hear that. We said sorry, have a nice ride. He ignored us, rude. We were all approaching the intersection at the same time. Does anyone truly have the right of way? I see it as whatever works for that particular situation. We would have been more than happy to yield had we heard him. A tinker bell does not work. A shout out from the biker coming would have worked. That actually is the first rude one we have encountered.
     
    05-04-2012, 10:29 AM
  #29
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by goneriding    
We were all approaching the intersection at the same time. Does anyone truly have the right of way? I see it as whatever works for that particular situation. We would have been more than happy to yield had we heard him. A tinker bell does not work. A shout out from the biker coming would have worked. That actually is the first rude one we have encountered.
In Oregon everything yields to horses including hikers. Bikers and ATV's yield to hikers along with horses. So here the bikers could be frustrated as they want but would still be the ones that are suppose to yield.
     
    05-04-2012, 11:14 AM
  #30
Banned
Quote:
Originally Posted by goneriding    
We have a horse camp in our area with horse trails that cross bike trails. Hubby and I were walking along chit chatting when out of the blue two bikers came flying over a hill and slammed on the brakes shy of the intersection which is close to that hill. The first guy was frustrated as to why we did not hear his little ringy bell on his bike. We cannot hear that. We said sorry, have a nice ride. He ignored us, rude. We were all approaching the intersection at the same time. Does anyone truly have the right of way? I see it as whatever works for that particular situation. We would have been more than happy to yield had we heard him. A tinker bell does not work. A shout out from the biker coming would have worked. That actually is the first rude one we have encountered.
In some cases might makes right.

If a 200 lb biker wants to take on a 1200 lb horse, be my guest while I get the popcorn.
Jolly Badger and FlyGap like this.
     

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
where are the best trails, SE QLD LaYuqwam111 Trail Riding 0 03-16-2012 01:47 AM
Encountering snakes on the trail! Day Mares Trail Riding 25 10-03-2011 10:52 PM
Encountering wildlife furrera Trail Riding 47 08-31-2011 05:12 AM
D&S Trails rndfarm Horses for Sale 3 01-28-2011 08:41 PM
Some Trails in VA ilovemyPhillip Trail Riding 0 04-09-2009 10:22 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0