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post #61 of 72 Old 02-14-2010, 09:20 PM
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Because you might have absolutely NO desire to carry/purchase a gun or even think about shooting something? You couldn't pay me to carry a gun.

It's okay that you feel like that because your government thinks of you as a criminal that only lacks a gun to be dangerous. When your government banned handguns for the average subject (they don't think of you as a citizen) the crime rate jumped. Why? Because criminals were the only ones that didn't turn thier guns in. Why? Because they are Criminals. Every type of violent crime is already illegal and they still happen, so how can passing a law against using a certain method be expected to help?

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Admitted? I'm proud of where I live, I don't have to 'admit' it.

I don't care where I live. I could quite easily get a gun as we have a property. My dad has a rifle out at the farm. I have never even touched it let alone shot at anything, and I have no desire to. That wouldn't change if I moved to the US.

I don't particularly like guns, I don't want to use a gun, and I don't want to own a gun. I especially don't want to shoot anything.

I'm sure i'm not the only one.

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*sigh* - I'm not here to debate gun laws. My views would be the same no matter where I live. This is my personal view on guns and has nothing to do with my countries laws vs. your countries laws.

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now that we have thoroughly hijacked this thread....

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*sigh* - I'm not here to debate gun laws. My views would be the same no matter where I live. This is my personal view on guns and has nothing to do with my countries laws vs. your countries laws.
i think you mildly misunderstood my statement. it was not meant as a bash on the laws of your country, i simply meant that it IS likely had you been born and grown up in the US where laws are much more liberal in that department, your views would be different. same as had i not grown up in the sticks where guns are the norm and often necessary, i would be likely to NOT own them, or have the same views that i have regarding owning and utilizing guns.

guns are tools, nothing more. not everyone owns a set of wrenches or a screwdriver. not everyone owns a gun. i would say that what a lot of us are saying is that a gun is a tool, and at times a gun is the BEST, MOST EFFECTIVE tool for the job at hand, whether it be defending ones self against a two or four legged attacker, or putting a severely injured horse down too far from civilization to be able to do anything else to care for the animal.
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^ I was more responding to Kevin about the gun laws - I have no interest in politics so am not really qualified to talk about it even if I did care!

Back to guns - I don't think my views are a results of where I was brought up. I have been with my dad shooting crows and rabbits and know quite a few people who shoot. My views are more related to me being a wuss! I couldn't shoot anything - I can't even give a needle to a cow. The roughest country I ride is when i'm getting cattle off the hills with dad - he would be the one to do the deed if we had to shoot a horse. I actually found a horse who needed to be shot and imediately called dad. unfortunately it died by the time he got there (a few minutes) but even if I had a gun I couldn't have done it. I know it is the right thing to do, but I could not bring myself to do it. It's a crappy part of my personality - it causes me grief sometimes, but I am what I am and I couldn't shoot anything.

Plus, I am super clumsy so would be nervous I would accidentally shoot myself or something! Since the only possible reason I would actually use a gun for is frightening a robber or such I could probably make-do with a fake to wave around, lol!

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Wild Spot, that's fine, knowing yourself and what you are comfortable with and not. At this stage in your life , this is how you feel. When I was younger, I felt the same way, even though I was raised around hunting, target shooting and skeet shooting (which I was good at).

Now at this stage in my life along with my life experiences, I have no qualms about carrying a gun when riding in remote areas alone. Like I said earlier, if I am parted from my horse, I would prefer to have some protection from both 2 and 4 legged predators.

Freedom of choice is something we have here in the states, and we are fierce about it, including the right to bear arms. If a fellow citizen does not desire to, that is absolutely fine, it's about choice.

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If a fellow citizen does not desire to, that is absolutely fine, it's about choice.
See, that's the view I like. I'm not anti-guns - I just don't want one myself.

I was just responding to a poster earlier who said everybody should have a gun. Just wanted to add that there are probably quite a few people who would say thanks, but no thanks!

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Just wanted to add that there are probably quite a few people who would say thanks, but no thanks!
I'm with you on that one. I have absolutely no desire to have a gun, nor do my parents.
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I don't see a problem with your view. I carry a gun, but my daughters don't. I have begged them to get hunter safety certificate so I can put them in for limted entry elk tags here in Utah. And they won't because they don't want to shoot anything. but they will come hunting with me. They have found it fascinating to clean and butcher a deer.

If one of horses needed to be put down, I wouldn't ask my daughters to that task. As a parent I would like to shield them from some of the harsh side of life. That doesn't mean that I would tell them what happened or let them witness. but I wouldn't ask my daughter to pull the trigger.

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See, that's the view I like. I'm not anti-guns - I just don't want one myself.
and i see nothing wrong with this, you are titled to your opinion, however i do have the opinion that everyone should have at least one, BUT it doesn't mean i'll try to force my opinion on you....
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