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    09-25-2012, 09:52 PM
  #11
Yearling
Just curious, What do they require that makes it so tough to get?

Utah requires a current Coggins, The vet looks at the horse and make sure it's healthy, ( no fever, not blowing snot etc) You have to put down the start and destination locations and it is good for 30 days. I get a coggins every spring in anticipation of the summer riding season, So at worst case it's just hauling the horses into the vet clinic to have him glance at them and see that they are standing up and happy, record the coggins certificate on the travel papers and I get a copy, he keeps a copy, the state of origin gets a copy, and the destination state gets a copy.

In addition to the health certificate. I carry my Utah Life time brand inspections in my truck. The state takes a photo ( front and sides of horse) and laminates that into a brand inspection card. Which basically is proof of ownership.
     
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    09-27-2012, 03:09 PM
  #12
Foal
health certificates

When you get right down to it health certificates are a joke, certainly as far as insuring a healthy horse. I can get a health certificate today and then ship my horses two weeks from now that are now sick, coughing or whatever. I wouldn't do that but its my using good sense and judgment not the paper that dictates moving a non healthy horse. Luckily my vet knows this and will give me health papers without seeing the horses. His opinion is that I wouldn't be headed out to a ride if the horse was sick.
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    09-27-2012, 03:47 PM
  #13
Green Broke
Bureaucratic red tape and method of taxation. At least some states tried to streamiline it.

In NC WV and pretty much every other Southeast state, you go to to vet, get your normal spring shots, coggins, and some form of. Id SUCH AS microchipping, brand , tatoo, digital photo's,,, send it in with 5 dollars and get a 6 month event permit.

After years of being in the agreement and accepting other states 6 month permits, VA finally got with it this year, however some idiot beurecrat who most likely wouldnt know a horse from a horse fly, interpreted the above agreement to mean ALL HORSES must be microchipped, and the must be microchippied with only one specific type, Also the owner must prove he can take a horses temperature , which has to be recorded everytime you move. I didt really look at the rest, Not dealing with it. If I do end up needing one I will simply pay the $5 and get a NC one.
     
    10-05-2012, 02:23 PM
  #14
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
After years of being in the agreement and accepting other states 6 month permits, VA finally got with it this year, however some idiot beurecrat who most likely wouldnt know a horse from a horse fly, interpreted the above agreement to mean ALL HORSES must be microchipped, and the must be microchippied with only one specific type, Also the owner must prove he can take a horses temperature , which has to be recorded everytime you move. I didt really look at the rest, Not dealing with it. If I do end up needing one I will simply pay the $5 and get a NC one.
Wow. I'm glad I read this thread. I was about to get myself into a world of hurt here in VA. I'm going to have to call my vet and see about getting some things taken care of before I start hauling them around. Thanks for the info, there Joe.
     
    10-10-2012, 11:33 PM
  #15
Foal
Our vet used to give us the Health Certificate without actually checking the horses, until someone turned him in for not actually inspecting the horses first. He knew us and trusted us to not travel with a sick horse. Common sense. Now, we actually have to load the horses up, and take them to his office, or pay a farm call if we want him to come to our place. Of course, we use him for all of our vet needs, so I think the last time we had to get Health Certificates, he charged us $5 per horse.
     
    10-10-2012, 11:44 PM
  #16
Foal
IMO, the "Brand Inspections" shouldn't be necessary if you have a current Coggins and a recent Health Certificate. I understand the basic concept, but it seems like just another way for someone to take our money.
     
    10-11-2012, 10:15 AM
  #17
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by qh trail rider    
IMO, the "Brand Inspections" shouldn't be necessary if you have a current Coggins and a recent Health Certificate. I understand the basic concept, but it seems like just another way for someone to take our money.
Some parts of the country really have horse rustling problems so in a way brand inspections do make sense in a way. One of my horses is actually chipped and more people are doing that now days so to me it would make more sense that horses need to be scanned instead of checked fro brands. Heck, I've only known half a dozen people who own branded horses.
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    10-11-2012, 12:35 PM
  #18
Green Broke
A brand can be seen from the road, or into a pen on private property giving LEO, probably cause for further investigation. It can also be recognized by a layperson without equipment. Chipping is worthless for horses, noone scans them, you can't scan unless you are right on top of horses, thieves, slaughter houses, buyers, sellers, vets, nobody scans. I feel they are a scam, sellng pipe dreams.
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    10-12-2012, 12:24 AM
  #19
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
a brand can be seen from the road, or into a pen on private property giving LEO, probably cause for further investigation. It can also be recognized by a layperson without equipment. Chipping is worthless for horses, noone scans them, you can't scan unless you are right on top of horses, thieves, slaughter houses, buyers, sellers, vets, nobody scans. I feel they are a scam, sellng pipe dreams.
At one point in our history most livestock was branded but today very few do and most of those are ranchers. Branding is on it's way out as a way of identifying animal and the laws need to be updated to reflect our changing society, keep up with modern times.

Chipping animals has gotten quite popular for normal household pets. So common that vets, animal control, shelters, etc routinely scan for them and many animals have been able to go home because of it. Just a guess on my part but I think horses will end up going down the same path.
     
    10-12-2012, 12:19 PM
  #20
Green Broke
Many animals, but not horses.
Dogs and cats don't tend to get stolen or shipped to mexico for slaughter. They are also small and easy to go unnoticed till they cause a problem and may end up in a shelter. Where certainly chips are great things.
A lost horse ? Everyone in the county that in anyway has anything to do with finding the horse will know already whos horse is missing. If my horse got out, fliers would be every where, Sherrifs dept and animal control and any other nearby horse owners would know. They wouldnt need a chip to ID it to bring it home. Granted a chip could prove ownership once you find it, however it really wont do anything to actually help you find it.
     

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