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post #31 of 56 Old 05-21-2013, 05:19 PM
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Horses are not afraid to get a drink. They are afraid of possible poor footing that might make them fall or get stuck. They are afraid that the creek is a bottomless pit that will sink then into the eternal fires of Hades where they will be eaten alive by dragons. They are afraid of the trolls that live under the bridge. But when you try to cross that new creek or scary bridge, it is easy to perceive that they are scared of water.

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Well cowboy bob, although you are trying to help, apparently YOUR help is not wanted! I on the other hand have a horse with a similar problem..

We went out on a trail and he crossed the creek going out. Coming back it was getting dark, close to feeding time, the other two horses went right through and mine flat out refused. Never pinned his ears, never acted nasty, just really did not want to.

I did a lot of pressure and release (kick and spin towards, as soon as he would take a step i would give him his head and quit kicking) but I never got him to do more than sniff the water. When he got fed up with being too close he would back up, so I would have to start the whole process all over again. I have videos, if you think they would help, but I would have to put them online. I haven't done it yet because honestly, it's embarrassing.

And yes cowboybob, i'm asking you!!

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Horses are not afraid to get a drink. They are afraid of possible poor footing that might make them fall or get stuck. They are afraid that the creek is a bottomless pit that will sink then into the eternal fires of Hades where they will be eaten alive by dragons. They are afraid of the trolls that live under the bridge. But when you try to cross that new creek or scary bridge, it is easy to perceive that they are scared of water.
Now That is something I would agree with they could be unsure of there footing and that would make them insecure.

The bottomless pit theory although funny and very fun to think about, I don't know that I agree. If this was the case then they would not cross water ever. I have had big fights with horses working though this kind of thing and later seen the same horse cross the creek on its own with no problem.

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Bob, I may have exaggerated just a bit..............
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Catrine....okay, obviously you got back somehow because you are on your computer. So, did you ever get him to cross or did you have to find a bridge, or go around somehow????? I gots to have an end of the story!

Maybe you are messaging from your phone and you are still out by the creek! Oh, no! Do we need to send the cavalry?
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Haven't you noticed how well a horse will cross water on the way home? No problem at all.
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post #37 of 56 Old 05-22-2013, 12:38 AM
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Haven't you noticed how well a horse will cross water on the way home? No problem at all.
Ehh, Not all horses. Mine, (like the other poster who got stuck with their horse on the far side of a creek, sorry, didn't catch your user) have in the past had problems crossing creeks whitest going homewards. Thankfully, we are over it now.
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Horses are not afraid to get a drink. They are afraid of possible poor footing that might make them fall or get stuck. They are afraid that the creek is a bottomless pit that will sink then into the eternal fires of Hades...
Exactly! It's not the fact that it's water, it's that it's an unfamiliar terrain obstacle. I've written before of trying to get Ellie across her first (as far as we know) creek. That was a meadow creek, about 18 inches wide and a foot deep, with vertical sides & water at the bottom. That was different from the shallow water creek running across a gravelly dip in the road, and yes, it took some persuasion to get her across that the first time. It was still another thing to get her to walk into the shallow water at the edge of a lake... All of these were "water" as we humans categorize things, yet to her perceptions they were obviously different. Each of them needed a separate overcoming of that initial reluctance to go into something unknown. Once that was accomplished, she would readily cross other similar-to-her things.

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Catrine....okay, obviously you got back somehow because you are on your computer. So, did you ever get him to cross or did you have to find a bridge, or go around somehow????? I gots to have an end of the story!

Maybe you are messaging from your phone and you are still out by the creek! Oh, no! Do we need to send the cavalry?

We did eventually get him over, but only because someone on the other side pulled him across. We were planning on tossing a rope over to the people who made it across and have them pull him over while I sat on him for principle, but With it being mid-winter (not that they are that bad in NC) and still had an hour and a half ride after the creek, I chose to err on the side of safety and address the problem in warmer weather when I had some light. As soon as I was off of him and someone gave a little tug, he went across. It could have been my nervousness throwing him off. Next time I'll head out earlier and in warmer weather!
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Exactly! It's not the fact that it's water, it's that it's an unfamiliar terrain obstacle. I've written before of trying to get Ellie across her first (as far as we know) creek. That was a meadow creek, about 18 inches wide and a foot deep, with vertical sides & water at the bottom. That was different from the shallow water creek running across a gravelly dip in the road, and yes, it took some persuasion to get her across that the first time. It was still another thing to get her to walk into the shallow water at the edge of a lake... All of these were "water" as we humans categorize things, yet to her perceptions they were obviously different. Each of them needed a separate overcoming of that initial reluctance to go into something unknown. Once that was accomplished, she would readily cross other similar-to-her things.
I like how you put that "unfamiliar terrain obstacle" for a young horse or one that has never be outside, crossing water with a rides can be different then crossing water. And I think I could even say that yes a creek could be different from a pond and that different from the ocean. and just like any trail obstacle the horses "will" can play into the issue as well. All trail obstacles requires the horse to do what the rider asks. Its not always a fear issue it's a willingness issue which would be a training issue or a riders ability issue. And that is why I think its easier to say "the horse is afraid" rather then see it for what it is a training issue or riders ability issue.
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